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[inthelab]

If they really love capitalizing lots of words, I suggest they enroll in a German course.

My sentiments, exactly.

[pollinate]

By the way, are you getting this all down, OP?  Trust me, it hurts us more than it hurts you.

I think OP signed off, as only Positive Feedback was Requested.

Does running him out of here count as positive feedback for us?

<I initially typed "postive", which could also be correct, right?>

[john_proctor]

"Universities have drawn away from the complex solidities of Ethical Literacy teaching"

Whew.

And, as one of the folk who teach ethics, am I glad they did.

You really can get too much complex solidity in a right short hurry.

[der_gadfly]

shouldn't be too hard to locate the prof..... we have the school, location and can easily get the course number.

[svenc]

shouldn't be too hard to locate the prof..... we have the school, location and can easily get the course number.

Not to mention the professor's last name at the start of the other assignment.  It is to her that I address the following:


Dear Colleague, (I won't post your name here, but anyone with three seconds and Google knows it)

Requiring your students to post their assignments as contributions in online fora is an interesting approach.  My concern is that by requiring it, you are imposing these contributions on communities where they may not be appreciated.  

At the very least, I hope that you are cautioning your students to pay attention to the culture and norms of the online communities they choose to grace with these contributions.  The two students from your class who have visited us here do not seem to have discerned this.

I understand that you are attempting to put the students in situations where their writing assignments will have some impact, and ideally, will prompt meaningful discussion.   As evidenced here, that may not always work as anticipated.

Are two student essays on an online forum regarding higher education a horrible imposition on this public online space?  Not really, but you can be darned sure you would be getting a lot of angry personal emails if we woke up this morning to fifty such threads.

Just my two cents,

Svenc

[francie_]

You want Positive Feedback?  You can't handle the Positive Feedback!

[voxprincipalis]

Some believe that ethics and moral reasoning is too broad of a topic to put a finger on,

Huh? If it's too broad, one could probably put three or four fingers on it. Also, cite?

and some believe that the topic is not discussed enough.

Cite?

In Institutions of Higher Education, there are not many that promote moral and ethical values amongst the academic communities.

Cite?

Alternatively,

Huh?

we only get a chance to see the manifestation of true ethical values in ceremonies

Like?

, written policy, and consequences for behavior contradicting the institution's set expectations. Few universities make it mandatory that their students, and even faculty, staff, and professors to learn or be educated about ethics & morals

Cite? And, doesn't that kind of contradict what you just wrote, which is that ethics are incorporated into the operating codes of universities?

, when in actuality the teaching of values are equal in necessity

To what?

for the success of any person.

Cite?

Universities have drawn away from the complex solidities of Ethical Literacy teaching, the knowledge of ethical reasoning, and moral reasoning in general.

Cite?

Many question whether or not Ethical Literacy can be taught to undergraduate students, and whether or not the experimenting students will actually grasp & maintain the teaching of ethical literacy.

Cite?

There are arguments that students are not interested in ethical reasoning and will not work to apply the principles to everyday life and careers.

Cite?

From the topics of plagiarism and underage drinking, to sexual relationships amongst faculty and students,

You really want "between" here instead of "amongst," because that's a different thing all together. (Pun intended.)

it is easy to tell there is an apparent need for reevaluation

Of what? And, "it is easy to tell there is an apparent need"? That's like saying "there was a loud noise and it was audible. And I heard it."

in institutions of higher education. Institutions of higher education house a majority of young adults who will be the future leaders of the world,

Cite?

they have a responsibility to make sure that the value of ethical training and education continues to surpass standards and stays vivid.

So wait. Are there standards, or aren't there? Didn't you just argue that there weren't any? And... vivid? Your thesaurus is working overtime.

I believe that higher education institutions have become too commercialized

Argument?

and forgotten about some of the very important aspects of education, and the education of ethical literacy and reasoning that should be taught to undergraduate students before finally entering into the real world.

This sentence doesn't work. See if you can tell me why.

@ "Yellow Tractor" My intention was not for you to "PROOFREAD" anything, but to just simply give your opinion on the topic in general, not necessarily the paper itself. I can handle that on my own. 

I think that needs a citation too, as I would argue it is not commonly agreed upon.

VP

[der_gadfly]

Chime Svenc.

Then again, one of the courses with a paper uploaded here is a Frosh level course.

It is really NOT a nice thing to do to toss 18 year olds into these snark-infested waters

[post_functional]

Some believe that ethics and moral reasoning is too broad of a topic to put a finger on,

Huh? If it's too broad, one could probably put three or four fingers on it. Also, cite?

and some believe that the topic is not discussed enough.

Cite?

In Institutions of Higher Education, there are not many that promote moral and ethical values amongst the academic communities.

Cite?

Alternatively,

Huh?

we only get a chance to see the manifestation of true ethical values in ceremonies

Like?

, written policy, and consequences for behavior contradicting the institution's set expectations. Few universities make it mandatory that their students, and even faculty, staff, and professors to learn or be educated about ethics & morals

Cite? And, doesn't that kind of contradict what you just wrote, which is that ethics are incorporated into the operating codes of universities?

, when in actuality the teaching of values are equal in necessity

To what?

for the success of any person.

Cite?

Universities have drawn away from the complex solidities of Ethical Literacy teaching, the knowledge of ethical reasoning, and moral reasoning in general.

Cite?

Many question whether or not Ethical Literacy can be taught to undergraduate students, and whether or not the experimenting students will actually grasp & maintain the teaching of ethical literacy.

Cite?

There are arguments that students are not interested in ethical reasoning and will not work to apply the principles to everyday life and careers.

Cite?

From the topics of plagiarism and underage drinking, to sexual relationships amongst faculty and students,

You really want "between" here instead of "amongst," because that's a different thing all together. (Pun intended.)

it is easy to tell there is an apparent need for reevaluation

Of what? And, "it is easy to tell there is an apparent need"? That's like saying "there was a loud noise and it was audible. And I heard it."

in institutions of higher education. Institutions of higher education house a majority of young adults who will be the future leaders of the world,

Cite?

they have a responsibility to make sure that the value of ethical training and education continues to surpass standards and stays vivid.

So wait. Are there standards, or aren't there? Didn't you just argue that there weren't any? And... vivid? Your thesaurus is working overtime.

I believe that higher education institutions have become too commercialized

Argument?

and forgotten about some of the very important aspects of education, and the education of ethical literacy and reasoning that should be taught to undergraduate students before finally entering into the real world.

This sentence doesn't work. See if you can tell me why.

@ "Yellow Tractor" My intention was not for you to "PROOFREAD" anything, but to just simply give your opinion on the topic in general, not necessarily the paper itself. I can handle that on my own. 

I think that needs a citation too, as I would argue it is not commonly agreed upon.

VP

Just out of curiosity, what is it you're procrastinating to avoid?

[mdwlark]

The OP is right.  After years of teaching complex solidities, I have pulled away, and only teach simple solidities or complex liquidities.  Or sometimes simple and complex gaseous matter.  By the way what the f*** is Ethical Literacy?  

<on edit> No, James, you seem like a nice sincere student.  You would be welcome in my class any time.  Most of us teach clarity and conciseness. 

[voxprincipalis]

Just out of curiosity, what is it you're procrastinating to avoid?

Er, at that time of day, I think I'd just gotten home from school and was still in school mode. It didn't actually take very long to type, since all I had to do was cut and paste "[/quote] Cite? [quote]" a bunch of times.

VP

[gekko]

Ethics and morals in higher education? In my experience this consists of conducting oneself in the same way as nearly any other segment of society while maintaining a sense of righteous indignation toward certain easy targets such as the banking industry or political figures advocating use of force in public policy. Let's take a look at some of the more "moral" aspects of academic activity:

-Rampant and nearly unquestioned plagiarism from directly copied work to "tagging" of co-authorship.

-Excessive use of adjunct employment while simultaneously espousing proletariat ideology.

-Acceptance of government funds while running a selective private country club environment. (Please tell me why an ivy or other elite institution can use legacy status in admissions while taking government funds and a bank that is forced to take tarp money they don't even want is subjected to government intervention in compensation?) Let the idiot son of a donor in if you want but DO IT ON YOUR OWN DIME, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE 30+ AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS WITH A BILLION OR MORE IN ENDOWMENT FUNDS!

-Recruiting students for "cash cow" university programs with no market value with enrollments far exceeding the availability of positions. More cheap labor similar to adjunct issue listed above.

-Use of concept of "academic freedom" to make absurd comments in fields an individual has no qualifications of any kind to comment on.

-Similar use of the above to avoid performing the basic functions of contractual agreement such as showing up to classes, remaining sober while doing so, etc.

-Waste of funds and other resources on athletics and allowing those involved in sporting events to behave in any imaginable way possible with no retribution.

A typical university is no more or less moral than an investment bank, consulting firm, international drug trafficking cartel or other group of randomly assembled individuals. The parties involved have simply mastered the art of dismissively critiquing anyone who actually provides a service of value outside of an academic context.

[pollinate]

Nice post.Thanks.

Oh, gag!  Since no one reported you the last time you spammed this place, I just did.  Bye!