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« on: December 03, 2009, 10:36:02 PM » |
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I think I just saw the stupidest job ad ever. "Confidential school" in Jacksonville? Are they kidding? |
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mountainguy
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 10:44:11 PM » |
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I guess I should clarify my last post. There are a number of universities in Jacksonville, but I find it appalling that they don't want to tell candidates who they are. Why?
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 10:47:57 PM » |
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I am guessing because they're not particularly proud of it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 10:50:20 PM » |
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I love the "professional-looking" e-mail address-- us.fla.college@gmail.comI have seen Confidential listings for deans, VPs, provosts, and presidents, but not for faculty or chair positions. These jobs also usually use a professional search firm. Never Gmail. |
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 10:54:08 PM » |
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I'm thinking it's for-profit, and perhaps not accredited.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 11:14:58 PM » |
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I was going to write a reply about something even stupider, but nothing tops this. Not even the ad that spelled the name of the discipline wrong, not even the ad that wanted a CD of the applicant reciting poetry. This is a level of stupid that I had not even imagined before. I could see clicking a link in one of those "I'm so happy I've found you again" spam e-mails as a lark, but as a career option? No. And that's essentially what this is.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 11:40:19 PM » |
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I'm thinking it's for-profit, and perhaps not accredited.
I would guess for-profit, and ACICS/ACCSCT accredited, except that it does not SPECIFICALLY mis-state that "...must have 18 credits at the graduate level as per accreditation agency requirements..." |
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 11:48:02 PM » |
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I guess I should clarify my last post. There are a number of universities in Jacksonville, but I find it appalling that they don't want to tell candidates who they are. Why?
I like your original interpretation better. How can a university expect any intelligent human being to apply for a job in ... Jacksonville? Yeesh. It's so north of this and south of that and not close enough to anything. Come on already. Untenured |
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der_gadfly
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 11:58:16 PM » |
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a job in Jacksonville might be better than unemployment..... value is contextual.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 01:19:14 AM » |
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Probably not the school itself, but a contingency-based recruiter trying to get applicants. If the recruiters let you know what school it was, you could bypass them and apply directly, and they wouldn't get their finders' fee.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2009, 02:32:30 AM » |
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MOST recruiter I have talked to in recent years simply confirm my earlier suspicions:
Those who can - do.
Those who cannot - teach.
Those who cannot teach - administrate.
Those who cannot administrate - manage.
Those who cannot manage - move to HR.
Those who cannot 'do' HR - become HR directors.
Those who cannot handle HR as a director - become HR VPs
Those who cannot handle the VP/HR job - become HS Guidance Counselors
Those who cannot be good HS Guidance Counselors - become HR directors
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2009, 09:19:34 AM » |
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MOST recruiter I have talked to in recent years simply confirm my earlier suspicions:
Those who can - do.
Those who cannot - teach.
Those who cannot teach - administrate.
Those who cannot administrate - manage.
Those who cannot manage - move to HR.
Those who cannot 'do' HR - become HR directors.
Those who cannot handle HR as a director - become HR VPs
Those who cannot handle the VP/HR job - become HS Guidance Counselors
Those who cannot be good HS Guidance Counselors - become HR directors
OMG Thank you so much--made my day! |
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2009, 09:26:55 AM » |
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I like your original interpretation better. How can a university expect any intelligent human being to apply for a job in ... Jacksonville? Yeesh. It's so north of this and south of that and not close enough to anything. Come on already.
Untenured
Untenured, that is a very unfair characterization of Jacksonville, my hometown and where most of my family still lives. Have you ever even been to Jacksonville? I am not saying it is the greatest city on earth, but trust me, I have been to and lived in FAR worse places than Jax. I would take living there over NYC, Chicago, LA any day, any month, any year for the rest of my life. The post is stupid, we can all agree on that. The fact that the job is in Jax has nothing to do with the post being stupid. |
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2009, 09:32:42 AM » |
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Any chance the current chair doesn't know he's on the way out?
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2009, 10:49:42 AM » |
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Is it possible that they are trying to establish a new school that doesn't yet have a name and the default on CHE is "Confidential" instead of "Unknown" or "Unnamed"? I ask because a college in Georgia ran job ads initially for "Unnamed Georgia College." It lated became named, obviously.
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