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« on: November 23, 2009, 07:57:28 PM » |
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Are there many 2:2 teaching load jobs around?
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 08:03:18 PM » |
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This is probably a fairly typical load at some mid- to lower level R1s. Not sure what the correct technical designation would be.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 08:06:20 PM » |
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That's the load in history at my R2.
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 08:09:26 PM » |
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Sorry--what're an R1 and an R2?
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 08:15:48 PM » |
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In the humanities 2-2 is as good as it gets. I know the sciences often have lower loads, but in humanities, my lower-ranked R1, the best R1's, and the best slac's all offer 2-2. I'm not sure whether 2-2, 3-3, or 4-4 make up the greatest percentage of the total jobs out there in a given field. My sense is that things are fairly evenly distributed. Places that offer 2-2 tend to vary widely in other measures, like pre-tenure leave time, so while it's a useful rubric for classing jobs, it needs to be supplemented with other info.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 08:25:36 PM » |
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I'm a historian at an RU/VH or R1, ranked top 50-ish, and I have a 2/2. As Pournelle noted, 2/2 is about as good as it gets. My friends at Ivies teach 2/2 in the Humanities. In my case, 2 of the 4 are small seminars. In their case, 3 of the 4 are tiny seminars.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 08:29:38 PM » |
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In the humanities 2-2 is as good as it gets. I know the sciences often have lower loads, but in humanities, my lower-ranked R1, the best R1's, and the best slac's all offer 2-2. I'm not sure whether 2-2, 3-3, or 4-4 make up the greatest percentage of the total jobs out there in a given field. My sense is that things are fairly evenly distributed. Places that offer 2-2 tend to vary widely in other measures, like pre-tenure leave time, so while it's a useful rubric for classing jobs, it needs to be supplemented with other info.
I'm prepared to bet--based on quite a lot of experience and an extended network--that 4/4 jobs are the significant plurality, if not the majority, in humanities and social science fields. Huge groups of state schools (ex-normal schools, etc.) have 4/4 loads, as do the tremendous majority of smaller, lower-ranked, and/or less-prosperous privates. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 08:56:29 PM » |
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At some schools, new faculty get a course release to help start their research agenda. So a new R1 assistant professor would receive a 2/1 and then be bumped up to a 2/2 after one year.
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2009, 09:06:37 PM » |
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I've worked at two R1s, both were 2-2 loads for all in my departments. Technically, it was 3-3, but PhD advisement and research productivity reduced it to 2-2. Alas, the assumption was that all faculty were research productive and were properly advising grad students. Ha.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2009, 09:07:43 PM » |
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A 2:2 load would be amazing for anyone......(I wish I had one).
I don't think this is as common as 3:3 , 3:4 or 4:4 loads.
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2009, 09:10:55 PM » |
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I'm a historian at an RU/VH or R1, ranked top 50-ish, and I have a 2/2. As Pournelle noted, 2/2 is about as good as it gets. My friends at Ivies teach 2/2 in the Humanities. In my case, 2 of the 4 are small seminars. In their case, 3 of the 4 are tiny seminars.
I guess I should add that I just moved from an R2 or RU/H, where I had a 3/4, with approximately 200 students a semester (in a light semester!) and no teaching assistants. |
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2009, 09:14:31 PM » |
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Hmm, last response lost in ether-- apologies if I end up posting twice. Anyway, my humanities dept at an R1 has 2:2, with 2:1 for new hires for the first 2 years. Later on, admin can take the load down-- I'm currently on 1:1 for that reason.
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2009, 09:16:24 PM » |
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Our load (Humanities) is 2:2; for beginning assistant profs it's 1:2.
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2009, 09:47:02 PM » |
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Most of my friends ended up with 3:3 or 4:4 when we were all on the market. There are some plum jobs out there with 2:2s, but they are not the majority. In this economy, just about any job is a good job.
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