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prephd
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« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2009, 09:00:54 PM »

English is my 2nd language. I did not learn "daily English" in graduate school here.

Wait. Am I missing something? You checked a dictionary for the meaning of "poop on you"?

Did you skip 5th grade?

I guess your department was pretty boring then. Sorry.
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« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2009, 09:12:38 PM »

You can say that. I never encountered a professor who used that kind of language. Otherwise, I would have learned better.


I guess your department was pretty boring then. Sorry.
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« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2009, 09:14:59 PM »

Too bad, you do not have a sense of humor and have no entertainment value. Try harder!

I'm seeing a great new sig line for someone here.  Svenc gets first dibs, of course.
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« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2009, 11:41:20 PM »

Too bad, you do not have a sense of humor and have no entertainment value. Try harder!

That's it, the gloves are off!

Double
poop on you!

I'm seeing a great new sig line for someone here.  Svenc gets first dibs, of course.

I'm tempted, but it's a bit too close to my chair's comments on my last annual report for comfort.
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« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2009, 12:04:42 AM »

Odd.  We have had some courses for which the instructor gets paid for 4 credits but students only get 3 credits, on the theory that they take extra preparation -- mainly students with some learning difficulties.

But I've never heard of a regular semester course which meets for the regular amount of time but is worth 4 credits to students.  I do vaguely remember some students getting 4 credits per course when then go off with an instructor to foreign lands: possibly some justification about the foreign setting making the course worth an extra credit. 

At my daughter's SLAC the writing-intensive courses are 4 credits but only meet for 3 hours per week. I think it is used to signal the larger expectation for writing (and grading).
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« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2009, 12:17:39 AM »

You can say that. I never encountered a professor who used that kind of language. Otherwise, I would have learned better.

Obviously, we had better professors than you.

And if I had fewer preps, I could learn more colorful language, too.
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« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2009, 12:25:14 AM »

And if I had fewer preps, I could learn more colorful language, too.

That's a pity.  My load has not been a detriment to colorful language acquisition, utilization and implementation.  But, maybe that was because I arrived here with a solid scatalogical foundation? 

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« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2009, 12:30:39 AM »

You can say that. I never encountered a professor who used that kind of language. Otherwise, I would have learned better.

Oh, my.  You really need to get out more. 

Come to my department.  Both the students and the faculty exhibit great facility with all manner of colorful language.
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« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2009, 07:28:31 AM »

Svenc, do you poop in public all the time?

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Double[/b] poop on you!
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« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2009, 08:30:58 AM »

And if I had fewer preps, I could learn more colorful language, too.

That's a pity.  My load has not been a detriment to colorful language acquisition, utilization and implementation.  But, maybe that was because I arrived here with a solid scatalogical foundation? 



I would expect your 'load' would assist building a healthy scatalogical foundation quite well. Badump-pssssh.

Nothin' like a good ol' poo-flinging contest between overeducated academics! Who brought donuts?
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« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2009, 08:41:20 AM »

And if I had fewer preps, I could learn more colorful language, too.

That's a pity.  My load has not been a detriment to colorful language acquisition, utilization and implementation.  But, maybe that was because I arrived here with a solid scatalogical foundation? 

One of the ways that I knew I would fit in here was the language used by the search committee during the interview.  If they thought that kind of language was acceptable, then I was a mere amateur who needed remedial work.

However, to address the important issues:

1) The only hope I have of publishing at an acceptable level stems from the fact that I am a simulationist with collaborators at multiple other institutions.  There is no way that I can play in the big leagues with the resources available to me (those people have groups of thirty underlings including multiple post-docs or research professors to supervise the minors and the necessary equipment to spew data), but I can be comfortably second tier.  That's pretty common in my sub-sub-subfield with a handful of stars and a bunch of us who put out a couple papers a year and regularly present at a few select conferences.  We ooh and ah over the stars' groundbreaking results and then figure out what gaps we can fill that are solid work using the resources at hand and our collaborations.  It seems to work for those who wish to try, particularly those who take advantage of summer break to go visit collaborators who have the resources to do great things.  That path won't let you boot-strap from a teaching college at 4/4 to an R1 at 0/1, but people do go from 4/4 institutions to 2/2 or 1/2 institutions based on demonstrated potential using that technique.

2) I agree that number of credits earned sometimes reflects effort required rather than time in the classroom.  As a student, I took a few classes that had did not follow the one-credit-per-hour-of-lecture-or-three-hours-of-lab rule.  For classes with more credits than hours, the load was hard.  For classes with more hours than credits, the gained experience and extra practice with the material was generally worth the trade-off.

3)  Neil, would telling you what I am wearing as I write this post make this thread more entertaining?  I hope so because here it goes:  I am wearing, what's that, honey?  I have office hours in twenty minutes?  Well, I can't go to the office in this.  I'll freeze during the walk.
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« Reply #71 on: November 19, 2009, 09:31:24 AM »

3)  Neil, would telling you what I am wearing as I write this post make this thread more entertaining?  I hope so because here it goes:  I am wearing, what's that, honey?  I have office hours in twenty minutes?  Well, I can't go to the office in this.  I'll freeze during the walk.

Don't change.  How do you think some profs get students to show during office hours?
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« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2009, 09:43:07 AM »

Hmmm...  a major in scatological studies?  I can see something like this growing legs.
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« Reply #73 on: November 19, 2009, 09:44:15 AM »

Hmmm...  a major in scatological studies?  I can see something like this growing legs.

...and I'll bet almost every professor is qualified to teach it.
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« Reply #74 on: November 19, 2009, 02:23:26 PM »

Sounds more like service to me.
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