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« on: November 06, 2009, 04:17:34 PM » |
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Hi, and welcome to the CHE Fora's first professional development workshop on "Do Not Feed The Trolls." I'm Mountainguy, your host for this endeavor. I know we've all got things to worry about, so I'll be to the point:
If a poster says "All academics are _____________" followed by something ridiculous, Do Not Feed The Troll.
If a poster is a snowflake undergrad, Do Not Feed The Troll.
If there is no possible chance that a meaningful dialogue will occur about a disagreement, Do Not Feed The Troll.
If a poster is saying blatantly racist, sexist, xenophobic, or homophobic thing, Do Not Feed The Troll.
If a poster is doing anything else that seems designed to provoke a fight, Do Not Feed The Troll.
Life is too short to get bent out of shape by stupid people.
In summary, repeat after me:
DNFTT.
DNFTT.
DNFTT.
That is all.
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larryc
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Eschew the hu.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 04:22:03 PM » |
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*someone in the back raises hand*
But why not? Why not have fun by poking the troll and mocking the troll and giving it attention? I mean, what is the harm?
[This is a set up for a point that must be made here.]
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sad_goat
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Requiring tolerance from the tolerant every day.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 04:25:36 PM » |
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*another hand*
But what if he attacks us with a pointed stick?
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In other words, it is a moral and philosophical question, not a question of details.
...it is proper to take alarm at the first experiment upon our liberties. - James Madison |
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 04:26:52 PM » |
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I wrote a response that disappeared into the ether just as LarryC was posting his, but GMTA.
DNFTT maybe doesn't apply to people who post their romantic problems. Some may remember Ellen, who was keeping her job by keeping her boss happy with under-the-desk . . . well, oldtimers will recall that.
Sometimes answering the trolls becomes an excellent exercise in creativity for us (usually) non-trolls.
And if someone inquires about staples vs. paper clips, we are honor bound to respond.
Perhaps DNFTT should be suspended if the original QT (Query By Troll) is apt to encourage creativity.
If it's just the usual person selling genital warts, say, "Warts" and move on.
The Fiona
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The Fiona or perhaps La Fiona
Professor of Thread Killing, Fiork University
The Right Reverend Fiona, PhD, Bishop of the Fora
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mountainguy
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 04:29:08 PM » |
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Fiona offers excellent advice. I regret how the term "warts" has come to refer only to spammers. I would support its re-expansion to including non-spamming trolls.
Carry on with the discussion amongst yourselves.
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thrillcheese
Award-winning Alpha Bitch. Yes, I really have a medal for that.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 05:37:12 PM » |
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I try never to feed the trolls. But I adore reading pages of other peoples' feeding of said trolls. Is this a bad thing?
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My tuition dollars pay your salary, you know! And stay out of the liquor cabinet. (post-functional)
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kedves
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 06:26:23 PM » |
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Let's not discount the value of those who can disarm a troll by taking its thread from provocative to soporific with just a few posts.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 07:09:45 PM » |
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PD Series? Cool, but I can't start learning till you do an ice-breaker and hand out candy. When's the team-building exercise?
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infopri
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When all else fails, let us agree to disagree.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 07:20:30 PM » |
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We should be honored that this workshop is being attended by the executive director of the STFU Center for Professional Development. Therefore, I'll bite: *someone in the back raises hand*
But why not? Why not have fun by poking the troll and mocking the troll and giving it attention? I mean, what is the harm?
[This is a set up for a point that must be made here.]
*raises hand* Because the troll isn't always a troll...? |
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Your experience is not universal. Words to live by.
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voxprincipalis
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 07:24:03 PM » |
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Hi, and welcome to the CHE Fora's first professional development workshop on "Do Not Feed The Trolls."
When is the next professional development workshop, entitled "How to use the 'Ignore User' feature"? I volunteer to host. VP |
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If you need me, I'll be hiding under a rock until mid-August. Try not to need me, unless you come bearing Chinese food.
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polly_mer
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 07:53:13 PM » |
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Mr. Mountainguy, I didn't understand that part after you said, "I'll be to the point". Could you repeat it again and maybe define some of those terms?
What are a poster?
I didn't catch where you defined your acronym DNFTT.
What if, hypothetically, you have to stop someone from defaming a group to which you belong just in case any of the readers don't know that people cannot defame that group? You mentioned a couple of -isms, but left out several others and I don't want people to go around hating on us refrigerator lovers.
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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mended_drum
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 08:19:46 PM » |
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Slight addendum: good fun can be had by creatively feeding the troll nonsense until dawn breaks and it turns to stone.
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msmicrobe
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 09:42:52 PM » |
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*Hand up for question.*
If we cannot feed the trolls, how are we supposed to fatten them up before butchering time? I like my trolls medium well done, hot off the grill, with a tossed salad on the side. Skinny trolls are tough, tasteless, and lousy with wine.
So as long as the trolls are locked up in their pens, what's wrong with tossing them some scraps and letting them bulk up? Better eating later....
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Chocolate fixes everything.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2009, 10:19:31 PM » |
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Was there a book on trolls on the syllabus, because if so, I don't have it, and it didn't come with the materials we were sent before the series.
Also, will there be wine and cheese after the workshop, or should I get liquored up at lunch?
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polly_mer
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2009, 10:22:49 PM » |
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Was there a book on trolls on the syllabus, because if so, I don't have it, and it didn't come with the materials we were sent before the series.
Also, will there be wine and cheese after the workshop, or should I get liquored up at lunch?
I'm voting for liquored up at lunch because it doesn't even sound like we're going to get the barbecue that MsMicrobe suggested if we follow the strict instructions on the syllabus. |
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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