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« on: November 03, 2009, 04:55:19 PM »

I'm going to Boston for 5 days and will be taking my 17 month old and our nanny. I'm pretty busy most of the time but on Friday we plan on visiting the Children's Museum and generally having fun around the city (including visiting the bronze ducks, if it's not raining/snowing). We'll be staying in Copley Place.

What other activities could I encourage them to do? Anything that they shouldn't miss. Is the Acquarium great? Is the baby too young for the Science museum? Are there any great restaurants that we could also take the baby but enjoy a grown up meal (she is a real trooper and is usally very well behaved in restaurants).

I've taken here to many conferences but this will be our longest hotel stay together, wish me luck!
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 08:53:11 PM »

I'm going to Boston for 5 days and will be taking my 17 month old and our nanny. I'm pretty busy most of the time but on Friday we plan on visiting the Children's Museum and generally having fun around the city (including visiting the bronze ducks, if it's not raining/snowing). We'll be staying in Copley Place.

What other activities could I encourage them to do? Anything that they shouldn't miss. Is the Acquarium great? Is the baby too young for the Science museum? Are there any great restaurants that we could also take the baby but enjoy a grown up meal (she is a real trooper and is usally very well behaved in restaurants).

I've taken here to many conferences but this will be our longest hotel stay together, wish me luck!

You know your child best.  But, having taken my children to the Children's Museum many times, you should know it is mostly for the 4-10 set.  In my experience it is largely for self exploration, not for toddlers. Even more so the Boston Science Museum, most especially the very large, loud and scary lightning exhibit.

The aquarium, on the other hand, is filled with people and sights and sounds that take no real comprehension.  Sorry, but we are talking about a 17 month child.

Restaurants?  Bostonians don't really want a 17 month old, however well behaved, around while they pay the prices they pay.  I know I wouldn't and never did take the kids out to a great one.  Having said that, maybe the Union Oyster House or Durgin-Park, true land marks well worth eating at, may be big and noisy enough that people won't care.  "Union" is very close to great, so be prepared to wait but on Friday night it is a bar crowd.  Alternately, wander China Town, lots of sights and sounds for a 17 month old and the hole-in-a-wall places are very good and very forgiving of an infant.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 09:48:54 PM »

If you are staying in the Marriott Copley Place, it is all attached to walkways with stores and restaurants and a food court and all of that. There are lots of people walking through, and the toddler and nanny might just be able to wander around in there for something to do. There is a bookstore in there. You don't have to go outside if the weather is bad, because the whole thing is attached. The food court actually has some decent food-even lobster rolls and chowder. I am just suggesting that while you are doing stuff, there is just some good wandering around right at the hotel. 17 month old might just like to ride the escalators, etc. There are two Legal Seafoods restaurants in that place-skip the crowded main one at Prudential and ask the Copley for quick directions to a quieter one that is right upstairs that most people don't know about. It would be fine for a pretty well behaved 17 month old. The other one by Prudential would be much louder and more stressful, so stick to the quieter one upstairs from the Marriott.
I think the aquarium is fine but agree about children's museum. There are usually seals outside by the aquarium and if the weather is nice, you can walk around over there and get something to eat just stroll. The Boston Public Library is an easy walk from Copley Place and they have such a nice children's room, and also a nice outdoor courtyard. Nanny and baby could enjoy hanging out there.
That age is kind of young to get a lot out of going to specific places-probably all of it will be fun
Do you have a suite in the Copley Place or just rooms? It is so much easier in one of those places with separate bedroom/living room, etc when travelling with a baby that age. The breakfast is extra at the Copley Place too-unless you are on the concierge floor. All of those suites properties now have the free breakfast and kids are all over the place.

Sounds like fun!
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 10:40:18 PM »

The Aquarium is the best.  There is a very large tank where the fish swim round and round and there is
a helical walk way you can wind around from top to bottom.  Would probably work well with a stroller and baby.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 10:54:49 PM »

OK, good news/caveats here:

a) Best for-kids-and-adults food place:   "Full Moon" restaurant in Huron Village.

Take the Red Line to Harvard Square, then grab a cab and have it take you up to the Huron Village area, (not far, should be under $8.00) where the fun-for-children-and-good-for-parents gourmet place is. (there are a couple of buses, but they would take a certain level of finesse, too stressful to try on a short visit.)

They have paper tablecloths with crayons, a play area, hot dogs, mac/n/cheese, PBJ, etc. for kids and REALLY, really good food for adults as well.

   http://www.fullmoonrestaurant.com/

Brunch is especially good--thick French toast...OK, I'd better stop thinking about that now...!

While you're there, (if you go in the daytime) there is the Bryn Mawr used bookstore across the street in one direction, and "Henry the Bear's Park" (game/bookstore) in the other.  Also a Merimekko shop down the street and a Formaggio's Kitchen (cheeses, wines, etc.) a block from there.

Worth a couple hours' visit, at least, and you could couple it with Harvard Square following.

b) Other Activities:

In Harvard Square, there are two children's bookstores to visit, very near each other.

1) "Curious George" has all ages, including tiny kids' stuff, with a small play area, and for older kids a second section downstairs. Very worth the visit, it was begun when M. Rey was still alive, with her input.

   http://www.curiousg.com/

2) The Harvard Coop is across the street, and has a children's book section with play area in the basement, and they offer activities in the afternoons a couple times a week or so.

   http://harvardcoopbooks.bncollege.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/BNCBHomePage?catalogId=10001&storeId=52084&langId=-1

At the bottom right side is a calendar listing the events for the month, with the kid's activities included.

3) If you do part of the Freedom trail or go to the Lexington/Concord area (Lexington Green, Minuteman park), check the National Parks Service tours and activities, many of which have some component for children.

4) Many local libraries have children's events, and the Boston Public Library is also in Copley Square, check their site for storytelling, etc.

5) In the Copley Square area, too: the Prudential/Westin Mall has a couple of kids-related stores (there's a Warner Bros' shop, and a California Pizza Kitchen that's kid-friendly, with a Cheesecake Factory on the lower level, opposite the Collonnade Hotel entry), and a huge Shaw's market across the street, if you are wanting to do snack-milk-other shopping.

Sadly, the FAO Schwartz store went away a bit ago, so the big bronze bear was moved to the Children's Hospital area. (Ditto the large bronze Donald Duck in Faneuil Hall, after a child fell off and the family sued, I believe...)

6) In the Lechmere area: Near the Museum of Science (up two blocks, over two) is a large, three-decker mall with a lagoon outside and several children's= related shops, a very good food court, and a Borders bookstore with a well-set-up children's area and cafe nearby.

But....all that said:

a) Echoing everything said above, and more--people are not mean to kids, but there is definitely less cooing and thinking they're cute when they are making noise, than (say) one might be if used to another region (like, maybe, the midwest, where I was raised) where the family thing is more common.

There is a higher percentage of singles in the area, most people are fairly serious when they're out and about (many more people use public transportation, either don't have or don't use their cars, and are working on the way to work, etc., or having business-like-meetings over meals, so there really is less tolerance for a lot of noise.)

They're not going to come glowering over you or anything like that if your child starts crying, of course. But there is a palpable difference in the degree to which the "children..seen, not heard" and "being expected to be little adults" thing is fairly long (say, 300 years or so) entrenched, and it's not likely to change soon. It sounds like that is less of an issue here, but you would want to be aware of it in advance.

b) The weather is also chillier and damper as winter approaches, so lots of layers and a cover-over for a stroller are a necessity. Also, re: strollers, if you plan to use the subways and buses, you will have to have a foldable, umbrella-like stroller, not one of the ones that looks like a child-sized VW bug with a bottle holder.

You are required to fold the stroller and hold the child for safety purposes, (aisles are narrow, fill quickly, and people push in and out) and people around you will get upset even if the driver doesn't say anything about it.

c) Is there any child care available in the hotel during the conference, or is your nanny doing that the whole time? That's a lot of hours solo with a little one, and the facilities for changing diapers and doing regular feedings are not always there when you want them in public places. 

You might want to think about either having an 'extra' extra-pair-of-hands for at least part of the time, since it is a high-stress place (subways are not always well-marked, people don't often know where they are or how to give directions, most of them are visitors, too...).

And, if English is not the nanny's first language, people are not always as patient as they ought to be with that, either. (And direction-giving is truly horrible. Few cartesian-grid areas exist, and no-one knows street names beyond the two that border their house and maybe the one their office faces.)

I would also echo the questioning about the wisdom overall; if the child is breastfeeding, then I can follow why you'd be bringing her/him along, certainly, but if not, it might be a lot of work and planning and expense without so much gain for you or the nanny, really.

She'll be toting a kid all around a town that's not easy to get around in, can be expensive just for basics, and could (frankly) have a better "people-person" attitude at times.

The child won't really be able to take so much in that being in that town at that time would be so much different from doing similar things--bookstores, libraries, etc.--at home.

The "Make Way for Ducklings" ducks are good for about a 1/2 hour max: after you've sat on one or two of them, and gotten a picture taken with Mama Duck, that's about it (also they're out-of-doors, so if the weather is bad, that's not much fun, either).

It's nice to walk around the Public Garden (and the Cheers' Bar is nearby, go upstairs, not downstairs, for lunch...) and maybe stroll up Charles St. to look in the windows of the antique shops...but again, those border on things that adults would enjoy but children wouldn't really "get."   

With some planning it could be worked out but there are things to be aware of in advance that might really not be so obvious...good luck.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 09:34:12 AM »

A Duck Tour might be nice for kiddo. Some time at the wharf or a boat tour are nice too. If the weather is nice the baby might enjoy just hanging in the park instead of going to museums he/she can't understand yet. There are plenty of places to eat in the Prudential Center and attached mall and hotels as well as nearby. For nice and quiet but not crowded I like the Hub (is that what it's called?) on one of the top floors of the tower. Nice view over the city, really good food.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 10:18:42 AM »

I have to agree with what Dellaroux's said, esp. on the nanny-exhaustion front and the backup-backup childcare, the seen & not heard thing, and the question of leaving your child at home if possible. Boston in November's not an easy place with a toddler, and it's not a great town for schlepping lots of kid stuff, either.  You might investigate playgroup co-ops and see if your nanny can bring the child (and stay) for part of each weekday, but I wouldn't be too surprised to get the cold shoulder. If you're religious, I'd go first for a church/synagogue/JCC playgroup sort of thing.   
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 11:02:56 AM »

I was thinking of the children's playgroup, also, I think there are a couple in nearby Back Bay churches (the closest synagogue is a ways away in the Brookline/JP area, so not very convenient) but I don't know if they take people on a short-term, short-notice basis.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2009, 11:19:26 AM »

Of course it depends on the temperament of the baby, and how early to bed, etc. With a good-natured one year old, I don't think it's any problem at all. Still, I think it helps greatly if the weather is nice (warm) and there is a suite of rooms, not just one. There is just more room in the places with a separate bedroom and small kitchen for eating some dinner if need be-or just heating up stuff.  A refrigerator is a lifesaver with the food issues. I think the type of room makes all the difference. This way, baby can be taking a nap and other person can be sitting out in the sitting room watching TV, making lunch in little kitchen. Free breakfast in the downstairs in those places is always full of kids and totally acceptable. The restaurant in the Copley Place is a regular breakfast restaurant type place-more sit down type.

In the warm weather, there is SO much to do in Boston. Once the weather gets cold, as it is starting to become, things really change. Still, I don't see why a nanny couldn't handle it-there is just so much around inside that giant hotel/walkways/mall thing that is attached to the Copley Place.
Also, the Back Bay train station rolls right into that hotel complex, so that makes travel in and out of there so easy on Amtrak or other lines. You just walk out and up through Nieman Marcus, and you are in the Copley Place.
If baby is difficult, or stays up til all hours, then quite different.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 01:03:59 PM »

Of course it depends on the temperament of the baby, and how early to bed, etc. With a good-natured one year old, I don't think it's any problem at all. Still, I think it helps greatly if the weather is nice (warm) and there is a suite of rooms, not just one. There is just more room in the places with a separate bedroom and small kitchen for eating some dinner if need be-or just heating up stuff.  A refrigerator is a lifesaver with the food issues. I think the type of room makes all the difference.

Totally agree. I used to get suites I couldn't afford for just this reason.
Boston MFA is also a good place for a toddler. Midday weekday it won't be too crowded, there's room to roam, good stuff to look at, and most of the paintings are high enough off the ground that they won't be in range.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 04:43:06 PM »

Thanks to everyone for your helpful replys. She is still night nursing and that is the main reason she travels with me when we can manage it. Other than that she is a good sleeper, easy going, likes to follow a schedule but can adapt without too much trauma, and loves to interact with people. So far this academic year we have done Michigan (multi-city), Chicago, Washington DC, Dallas, and Honolulu. She is a total trooper and for the most part a very easy going traveller. Luckily she is easily entertained and really the umbrella stroller is the only extra we tote around (ok there's the diapers too). We relocated to the upper midwest a few years ago so are used to craptasticlly cold and icky late fall/winter weather.

Library storytime is a great suggestion, I'm checking that out right now. Mostly I'm guessing they will take short walks, talk to people and look in windows.

Thanks for all your input.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 11:00:51 PM »

Something also to watch out for if they're out walking a lot.

The Copley area is very upscale, fairly safe (keep an eye out for pickpockets, and don't leave valuables visible in a car) and walker-friendly in the direction of the Back Bay, basically to the north of the hotel area, going towards the Charles River and the Esplanade.

But just over the Mass Pike bridge, past the Back Bay train station, say, on Dartmouth, and going towards the Shawmut St./Boston City Hospital area, there are places that are suddenly not as safe, and while you (or the nanny) might be OK there in the daytime, you definitely would want to think twice about going there at night.

The area is very, very mixed, in an odd way, some is gentrified, some is boarded up. Some is planted, green, friendly, some is trashed, empty, worrisome.

I'd focus on things that move towards the Mass-Ave-Above-Huntington area and going on Boylston towards the downtown/Tremont intersection, and the parks and Beacon Hill above that.

The Mapparium, at the Christian Science Center on Mass Ave might fascinate a toddler, actually, with all the lights going on the globe that you're inside--come to think of it.

The Reflecting pool, unfortunately, will probably be drained or frozen, though...

Bienvenus a Boston...
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 10:55:31 AM »

Also, if weather is bad, check to see if the Barnes & Noble right in the Copley Place walk-through has storytimes or other kids activities too. You can just walk down a walkway to get there from the Copley Place. Food court is the area baby could easily hang out with nanny too-and have little snack or just get out.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2009, 10:58:00 AM »

Boston was fabulous! Thanks for all your suggestions. We spent 3hours of the Acquarium and it was worth every penny, she loved it and couldn't stop talking about the fish etc.  The Children's Museum has a huge section for toddlers, basically the whole second floor (or third I can't remember) and as a bonus we discovered it was only a $1 after 5pm on Friday night. A total bargain I couldn't believe it.

The people in Boston were wonderful and I found it to be quite family friendly. People helped us on and off trains, up and down stairs when there were no elevators, offered us seats occasionally, , and talked to the baby continuously. Of course I am sure it helps that we have a fairly social/gregarious/well behaved toddler. And of course we have travelled enough to know that you don't try and jump on a metro during rush hour when everyone and their brother is also packing onto a train. I think remembering things like that go a long way in making any trip, and in general, everyday life a little easier/more pleasant.

We ate during off hours in several nice restaurants and had wonderful service and interaction with the people in there. Also, the foodcourt in the mall was amazing (and we had a fridge in our room, awesome). barnes and Noble had story time! Amazing all the way around.

All in all it was a wonderful trip.
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2009, 11:41:56 AM »

Glad to hear it!

Safe journeys.
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