wsr88d
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« on: October 29, 2009, 07:58:15 PM » |
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Ok, I am a little confused here with how search committees and institutions handle job applicants and multiple interviews.
Recently I applied for a FT professor position in my field in education, got an interview pretty quickly - I was rather confident that I did well with answering the panels questions, etc.
Within 36 hours, I received a call from the Dean of College of Education who was on the panel, inviting me back for a teaching demo with the panel that I originally interviewed with....no problem set up, committed and it is scheduled in 9 days (their date).
However, today I was reviewing more about the position and the department, curriculum, etc. and decided to double check their job listings and noticed that the position I am (still) interviewing for has been re-posted for a open date of 10/28 and a closing date 11/15...which is the week I am scheduled for my teaching demo. And the posting is identical with the message of: * Please note this position has been reposted, previous applicants need not reapply.
What does this mean? How am I supposed to interpret this? I am trying to wrap my head around this.
I assume that I would not have been called back for a teaching demo if they did not like me and my qualifications, however, does this mean that I am going through a bunch of formalities with their interviewing process, or would it seem that I might actually have a chance in landing the position at this stage in the game?
Can anyone assist me in trying to figure this out?
Thanks in advance.
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scampster
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 08:20:42 PM » |
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It just sounds like they didn't get as many qualified applicants as they wanted in the first round and needed to have more applicants come to campus besides you.
But I'm just a grad student, so that is not a SC-educated comment.
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msparticularity
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2009, 09:39:55 PM » |
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It just sounds like they didn't get as many qualified applicants as they wanted in the first round and needed to have more applicants come to campus besides you.
But I'm just a grad student, so that is not a SC-educated comment.
That would be my guess, also, since they've specified that previous applicants don't need to re-apply; they're trying to expand the pool of qualified applicants. |
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 10:13:25 PM » |
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It just sounds like they didn't get as many qualified applicants as they wanted in the first round and needed to have more applicants come to campus besides you.
But I'm just a grad student, so that is not a SC-educated comment.
That would be my guess, also, since they've specified that previous applicants don't need to re-apply; they're trying to expand the pool of qualified applicants. They may also have some HR or state rule that requires faculty positions to be advertised for a certain amount of time. There's no end of wackiness in this area--such as having to readvertise a search for visa purposes when your selected candidate is an international. A lot of times no one wants to do it but it has to be done. There's not much to read in it. If you're going to campus, you have a real shot at the job. The odds are very good that the readvertisement is some sort of odd formality. |
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wsr88d
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 03:33:30 PM » |
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Hello again..... update:
Went to the teaching demo presentation....did the best I could, given the circumstances (was running a low grade fever).
Said I would be notified next week on a decision regardless....
However, noticed today the position was reposted "again" this time......there is no label/end date....it indicates "open until filled".
I guess that cannot be good?
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mad_doctor
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 03:56:15 PM » |
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Yeah, what aandsdean said. I don't think it means anything. The HR drones probably needed to post it again for their own internal reasons.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 04:58:56 PM » |
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Hello again..... update:
Went to the teaching demo presentation....did the best I could, given the circumstances (was running a low grade fever).
Said I would be notified next week on a decision regardless....
However, noticed today the position was reposted "again" this time......there is no label/end date....it indicates "open until filled".
I guess that cannot be good?
You have way too much faith in the system. You are thinking a committee drafted and provided a report to the Chair/Dean indicating they wanted to expand the search. The Chair/Dean reviews the report and sends a request to HR. HR drafts/gets approval for/posts a fresh advertisement in a day or two? Not-gonna-happen. To get that much pushed through our pipeline, you are looking at 10 days minimum and probably a lot more. Stop fretting - they loved your presentation, you wowed them completely, and currently they are deciding exactly which parking place & office to offer you (and it better not be mine!). |
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wsr88d
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2009, 07:44:20 PM » |
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An Update - I think I am not in consideration anymore. They wanted someone to start today officially no later than the 6th of December. I have not heard anything, no email, phone call, or even a rejection letter.
Plus, the position was re-advertised yet again the week before Thanksgiving with a "Open Until Filled" status.
So needless to say, it was an interesting experience....time to file this one away as another one bites the dust. Now its time to focus more on finishing up this doctorate and get the blazes out this god-forsaken state!
Because it is literally dried up with any remote potential possibilities - not to mention that everything I have seen (posting wise) is out of state - north of Mason-Dixon line........so I think I can manage another year and a half adjuncting in addition to the F/T HS position - and wrap this whole doctorate up.
Frustrating though........the institution doesn't have the decency to send a "thanks - but no thanks!" notice.
Lesson learned, reflection made, better I can do next time around! ;-)
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msparticularity
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2009, 10:19:51 PM » |
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I think you have taken the healthiest possible perspective on this whole experience. And you've experienced one of the range of dysfunctional SC behaviors, too, so you're gaining good preparation for your major assault once you have your degree in hand--nice going!
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2009, 06:45:35 PM » |
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Sounds like a dysfunctional SC and department that you'd be better off avoiding anyway.
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