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Really, at this point I'm thinking "medication"---alcohol, pills, whatever. I'd junk this thing and start over with MAC but cannot afford it.
So, I used some hard-earned money and replaced my laptop with a tablet HP. It had Vista but I figured that it had been long enough (early September) for all the bugs to be patched up (I'm a long time PC user and so I know the territory). Everything went very well for a good month or so. Any programs I added were put on in the first week, I dutifully put on all the updates right away and things went well. About two weeks ago the endless Blue Screen of Death cycles started and the damn thing just shuts down without warning with an "IRQL" warning. But, no, I have not added new software or hardware, the only thing going on is automatic updates from Microsoft itself. I am NOT getting into the bios to do the "fixes" recommended at various geek sites. They seem to be a mixed results sort of deal anyway.
So, its been recommended by the 14 year old at the U Help Desk that I upgrade to Windows 7 which "doesn't have these problems"---My question for those of you who know is....how's that Windows 7 working out and is it more stable than this worthless Vista? Seriously, I've never had a Windows system as bad as Vista (well, that short unhappy experience with ME was nearly as bad). No matter how many drivers I update or patches I put on it the fact is it still is an unstable mess.
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 05:47:10 PM » |
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One of my colleagues spent about five minutes telling me about the joys of Windows 7 today. Apparently, it's fabulous all over. I'm still scarred by ME and I told him I just need to take things slowly.
Are software problems covered by your warranty?
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2009, 05:51:50 PM » |
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I'm looking forward to upgrading to Windows 7 on payday ($29.99 for students!). It's meant to be pretty good.
However, before doing this yourself, you should make sure this isn't a hardware problem. It might be that your hard disk is damaged. If you're still under warranty, get it replaced before you change OS.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 05:54:00 PM » |
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One of my colleagues spent about five minutes telling me about the joys of Windows 7 today. Apparently, it's fabulous all over. I'm still scarred by ME and I told him I just need to take things slowly.
Are software problems covered by your warranty?
Seriously, when people complained about Vista a year or two ago I'd say: "It can't be worse than that horror show Windows ME!" I should find them now and apologize. It is just like Windows ME. <shudder> Nope, Best Buy says that I "must have done something to it." and since I didn't buy the "extended warranty" I'm SOL. Really, I've been using computers since the early 90s, I've endured all the Microsoft messes ever created and made a few of my own and know I haven't "done anything." In fact, I've been so busy I have barely done more than email or use Word on it never mind mess with configurations or defaults. It just shuts down randomly. What I do worry about is upgrading to "7" over this mess. |
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2009, 05:58:20 PM » |
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My Vista machine got completely screwed up by an early update. (So much so that I've avoided doing updates since then.) Have you tried using Vista's restore points to go back to a point before your computer began to act up? Using System Restore (which is different from Back Up/Restore), you can restore your system files to an earlier point in time. Note that your own documents (word-processing files, photos, music, etc.) will not be affected, and the process is reversible if you don't like the result.
Go to the Control Panel, click the "Systems" icon, and then click on "System Protection" in the left-hand pane. The "System Properties" dialog box will open with the "System Protection" tab showing. Click on the "System Restore..." button. When the "System Restore" window opens, click the "Next" button. Note that the next window displays a list only of the most recent restore points, which may not go back far enough. (You said your problem began two weeks ago, so you want a restore point older than that.) Therefore, check the box for "Show restore points older than 5 days." Look at the resulting list and select the restore point you want to use, based on the date. Then select "Next." (There may be one or two further steps, but if so you can just follow the prompts.)
Note that, as new restore points are created (an automatic process), the oldest ones get deleted. Therefore, if you wait too long, you will no longer have any restore points from early October. (It may already be too late, depending on how you use your computer. My own earliest restore point right now is October 6, but I haven't been doing very much with the files on my computer, so the system hasn't made a whole lot of new restore points.)
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2009, 06:01:44 PM » |
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Windows 7 is Vista . . . with the bugs finally removed.
Personally, I live in a household with nothing later than XP and my main machine runs linux. I've also been a software engineer for 20 years . . . the latter fact may or may not be diagnostic ;-)
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2009, 06:31:17 PM » |
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Windows 7 is Vista . . . with the bugs finally removed.
Personally, I live in a household with nothing later than XP and my main machine runs linux. I've also been a software engineer for 20 years . . . the latter fact may or may not be diagnostic ;-)
Yes, my husband's been trying to get me on the Linux train but I don't want to learn another OP right now. I liked 98, liked XP and never had a bit of trouble with either one. Vista? 64-bit Vista at that? Ugh, what a piece of unstable crap. Infopri, I'll try System Restore I've done the Back UP/Restore but forgot that further option. I still think that it was a *Microsoft* update that provoked it. Big surprise. Yes, Mac people---I was wrong in 1990 when I went from Apple to PC. I admit it. I've been punished. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2009, 07:25:22 PM » |
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Windows 7 is Vista . . . with the bugs finally removed.
Personally, I live in a household with nothing later than XP and my main machine runs linux. I've also been a software engineer for 20 years . . . the latter fact may or may not be diagnostic ;-)
Yes, my husband's been trying to get me on the Linux train but I don't want to learn another OP right now. I liked 98, liked XP and never had a bit of trouble with either one. Vista? 64-bit Vista at that? Ugh, what a piece of unstable crap. WH is the user from hell (I feel sincerely sorry for the poor sods who've had to do serious support for him at work over the past decade or two) but even he's looked at my Ubuntu install and gone "oh, this really seems to work!" -- modern linux installations, unless you want something like shockwave, are pretty much indistinguishable at the user level from XP. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2009, 07:37:01 PM » |
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Windows 7 is Vista . . . with the bugs finally removed.
Personally, I live in a household with nothing later than XP and my main machine runs linux. I've also been a software engineer for 20 years . . . the latter fact may or may not be diagnostic ;-)
Yes, my husband's been trying to get me on the Linux train but I don't want to learn another OP right now. I liked 98, liked XP and never had a bit of trouble with either one. Vista? 64-bit Vista at that? Ugh, what a piece of unstable crap. WH is the user from hell (I feel sincerely sorry for the poor sods who've had to do serious support for him at work over the past decade or two) but even he's looked at my Ubuntu install and gone "oh, this really seems to work!" -- modern linux installations, unless you want something like shockwave, are pretty much indistinguishable at the user level from XP. Ah, I'll look at it again. The husband just mentioned to me that my Linux experience was some version that came with the first release of the EEE PC netbook which he (a dedicated Linux nut) hated using so he thinks I'm biased from that experience. I only do Word, power point, pdf downloads of books, emailing and generic stuff. Nothing exotic or complicated going on with my computer use. |
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2009, 08:18:36 PM » |
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You may have a hardware problem.
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2009, 08:26:53 PM » |
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You may have a hardware problem.
Well the error message is a common one according to googling "geek sites" and one of a half dozen common to Vista and involves either removing installed drivers (I removed all including the ability to print from the computer) and devices (none installed except the printer) or adjusting someting with the bios as it *thinks* it has a memory shortage. |
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2009, 11:00:43 PM » |
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Infopri, I'll try System Restore I've done the Back UP/Restore but forgot that further option. I still think that it was a *Microsoft* update that provoked it. Big surprise.
I believe you. I still think it was a Vista update that got me into serious trouble, too. Yes, Mac people---I was wrong in 1990 when I went from Apple to PC. I admit it. I've been punished.
My Better Half just acquired his first Mac (an iMac), after a lifetime of PCs. (Well, actually, he started on a Wang dedicated word processor, back when there was such a thing, but that was back when dinosaurs still roamed the earth.) He bought it because he was fed up with all the trouble he's had with his PCs, and now that the iMac is up and running, he's in love with it. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2009, 07:00:05 AM » |
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Windows 7 is essentially Mac OS X. or 10.1. We are a dual platform house (I'm the Mac, my wife is the PC, although better looking than the guy in the ads). She upgraded to Windows 7 and my first reaction was--really, that's it? Vista with fewer bugs?/ How much did we pay for this again?
Come back to Apple and play with Snow Leopard. It will blow your mind.
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2009, 05:47:01 PM » |
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We have XP on my netbook, which is fine. Dull, but functional. It picked up a nasty virus a few weeks back, but I'll take the blame for not being careful enough. (The netbook was the first non-Mac I'd bought since 1989 -- viruses just aren' something I think about a lot...)
We just bought a new iMac. I've been weeping with joy at the loveliness that is Snow Leopard.
But, you know, XP is, er, fine...
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2009, 08:43:36 PM » |
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Windows 7 is essentially Mac OS X. or 10.1. We are a dual platform house (I'm the Mac, my wife is the PC, although better looking than the guy in the ads). She upgraded to Windows 7 and my first reaction was--really, that's it? Vista with fewer bugs?/ How much did we pay for this again?
Come back to Apple and play with Snow Leopard. It will blow your mind.
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