|
indianalitchick
|
 |
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2009, 05:05:15 PM » |
|
I don't contribute to the college where I work. I'm already paying for financial aid by paying taxes.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
larryc
Hu hatin'
Distinguished Senior Member
Posts: 17,565
Eschew the hu.
|
|
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2009, 05:57:53 PM » |
|
When my university asks me for money I feel like they have a fundamental misunderstanding of our relationship.
Still, I donate when it can be targeted, mostly to student programs and the library. But to the endowment? So the administration can direct it to their pets? Hell no.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
mended_drum
|
|
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2009, 06:01:10 PM » |
|
I don't donate to the college where I work for three reasons:
1. My alma mater needs the money more and gave me significant financial aid when I was a student
2. My employer is the entity which pays me money, not the other way around.
3. Money I might have given is being used to offset our recent cut in benefits
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
scampster
|
|
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2009, 06:03:15 PM » |
|
I donate, but to earmarked funds (our library, the student radio station, and my department also has a fund). There are several situations where a high faculty participation rate is a useful datum to have. - DvF
I'm genuinely clueless - what situations are these? I understand percentage of alumni giving but percentage of faculty giving? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
When you are a scientist your opinions and prejudices become facts. Science is like magic that way!
|
|
|
southerntransplant
Generally overcaffeinated
Distinguished Senior Member
Posts: 6,851
Am I on YOUR curriculum committee too?
|
|
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2009, 06:21:07 PM » |
|
I don't donate to my university. It's bad enough they make me pay for parking.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Interestingly, many fans find that Seger looks increasingly more like the cereal brand character Captain Crunch as he ages." - Wikipedia entry on Bob Seger.
|
|
|
|
msmicrobe
|
|
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2009, 06:26:45 PM » |
|
I will not donate. I agree with the person above who says the university doesn't understand our relationship if they pay me with one hand and hold out the other asking for a donation.
I give my time, my energy, my talents, and my reputation. That's enough. I go above and beyond for my students with those resources. The money is mine.
On a similar note, I do not give to the annual charity drive done in the University's name. I give to charity. Several, as a matter of fact. It's not a lot, but it is what I can afford. But it is none of my employer's business to whom I give the money I have earned.
It's one thing to bring in actual food goods to add to a box for a food pantry. No records are made. But that's the extent of it.
If it's not the amount, but the fact I were to "give" that the administrators care about.... I guess I want to know why? Why do they need me to donate money just so they can brag about it? Why do they even get to sit down with a list and evaluate those who gave vs. those who did not?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Chocolate fixes everything.
|
|
|
|
mountainguy
|
|
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2009, 06:38:20 PM » |
|
As a graduate student with a low annual income, I don't donate to my university or to any other charity on a regular basis. But that doesn't stop the alumni association from asking (I earned a terminal master's degree from the same place, so I'm in the alumni database). When I explained this to the last telemarketer who called me, she replied that I could apply for their alumni scholarship. I told her I wasn't interested and that I'd prefer to be taken off their list. Not sure if that ever happened.
If I am in a position to donate money in the future, I'd be much more inclined to give it to my undergraduate alma mater, which is far more committed to achieving excellence in undergraduate education than PepsiU. They have several large scholarship funds that I'd be glad to support.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
clean
|
|
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2009, 06:56:03 PM » |
|
IF you wont give to programs at your university, why would/should anyone else?
That is why the faculty contribution rate is important. The amount is irrelevant, that you give SOMETHING is.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" Darth Vader
|
|
|
|
kedves
|
|
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2009, 07:22:12 PM » |
|
I'm with Clean. If you can't count yourself as a member of the community, why should outsiders care? If you can't find something, somewhere on campus to which you can give a minimal gift, isn't it time to look for new work--or another line of work?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
glowdart
|
|
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2009, 07:37:25 PM » |
|
Are there grants which do depend on the faculty contribution rate? Examples?
(Or are we all trusting the OP's admin?)
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
spork
|
|
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2009, 08:03:16 PM » |
|
Taking a student to lunch every once in a while will probably do more to improve your teaching evaluation scores, making it more likely that you'll get tenure, at a higher salary, and thereby allowing you to donate more at some future date than you otherwise would be able to.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
a.k.a. gum-chewing monkey in a Tufts University jacket
"Please do not force people who are exhausted to take medication for hallucinations." -- Memo from the Chair, Department of White Privilege Studies, Fiork University
|
|
|
|
clean
|
|
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2009, 09:01:59 PM » |
|
Are there grants which do depend on the faculty contribution rate? Examples?
(Or are we all trusting the OP's admin?)
We hear this every year at our August faculty meeting. There are funding sources that are tied to the participation rate of the employees. It may be just one of the criteria, but they do use it somewhere. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" Darth Vader
|
|
|
|
barred_owl
|
|
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2009, 09:12:32 PM » |
|
I'm curious to know whether or not forumites' universities also circulate United Way solicitations, too, in addition to the requests for donation straight to the institution. United Way circulars were sent out to everyone at both of the places I worked and, in some ways, there was an implied pressure from "on high" that we contribute.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
...I can't help rooting for the underdog underbird. |
|
|
conjugate
Compulsive punster and insatiable reader, and
Member-Moderator
Distinguished Senior Member
Posts: 16,690
Tends to have warped sense of humor
|
|
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2009, 09:24:39 PM » |
|
The previous institution where I worked did indeed pester me for United Way contributions. This included individual visits from other faculty after I hadn't signed on for a certain amount of time.
My current school has asked me to contribute to the Development Fund, and I did; a one-time thing rather than a deduction from each paycheck. I will do this, in part because I don't think my contribution is entirely anonymous and I don't want a failure to contribute to be held against me.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Unfortunately, I think conjugate gives good advice.
∀ε>0∃δ>0∋|x–a|<δ⇒|ƒ(x)-ƒ(a)|<ε |
|
|
southerntransplant
Generally overcaffeinated
Distinguished Senior Member
Posts: 6,851
Am I on YOUR curriculum committee too?
|
|
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2009, 09:52:06 PM » |
|
Are there grants which do depend on the faculty contribution rate? Examples?
(Or are we all trusting the OP's admin?)
We hear this every year at our August faculty meeting. There are funding sources that are tied to the participation rate of the employees. It may be just one of the criteria, but they do use it somewhere. Are we talking about private organizations? I can't imagine NSF, ONR, DOE or any of my usual targets is looking at faculty participation in donations to determine if they'll give me a grant. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Interestingly, many fans find that Seger looks increasingly more like the cereal brand character Captain Crunch as he ages." - Wikipedia entry on Bob Seger.
|
|
|
|
