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anthroma
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« on: October 14, 2009, 07:15:41 PM »

Just wondering what you all thought of this... money is tight at the uni and chair is trying to find ways to get me a contract so I won't be living on a semester to semester basis (uni still on hiring freeze due to budget).

$10,000 less than the full time position originally discussed (but $10,000 more than currently making)
No benefits (not important as my spouse has full benefits)
Retirement available
3:2 load (which is what I'm teaching now)
No service/ advising
3-5 yr contract

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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 07:41:39 PM »

Other things to consider: are you currently in a tenure-track position that would provide more stability than this (which sounds temp)? Cost of living in the area compared to current area? Will no service put you at a disadvantage for merit pay?
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 09:28:16 PM »

What other options do you have?
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 11:06:22 PM »

Just wondering what you all thought of this... money is tight at the uni and chair is trying to find ways to get me a contract so I won't be living on a semester to semester basis (uni still on hiring freeze due to budget).

$10,000 less than the full time position originally discussed (but $10,000 more than currently making)
No benefits (not important as my spouse has full benefits)
Retirement available
3:2 load (which is what I'm teaching now)
No service/ advising
3-5 yr contract



So, you've been on a series of term contract so far, and this would give you a continuing contract? Given the current economic situation, and supposing that you are geographically bound (due to spouse) this is probably the best you can do in a bad situation, frankly. You do also need to know that this will leave you in a not-great situation for future negotiations over salary, since you'll be starting at a low base. However, the absence of a service/advising requirement does leave you some room to negotiate for higher pay in future, if funding for an actual full position does get restored.

Overall, yeah, it sounds to me like your chair is trying to do right by you.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2009, 08:21:43 AM »

This is a job with higher pay.  The job you originally thought you would get does not exist; nobody got it.  If you don't need benefits, want a long-term contract, and are location-bound, it sounds good.  I would try to get some language about raises in the contract.  Who knows, maybe someday they will be possible again.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 09:56:27 PM »

What's the alternative?  Work at home for free?  Refuse the 5-year contract in lieu of a lower paying, year-to-year one?   Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 07:10:37 PM »

I'm currently an adjunct (semester to semester, no contract).  So I would (I assume) be slightly more stable in that regard.  I am bound geographically due to spouse's job.  The original job no longer exists (although chair says he will continue to fight for it and this will be a position to hold on to me until it comes through).

It does sound like a no brainer.  I just didn't want to sign this contract and everyone at the top seems settled and happy with the situation and forgets about the full time (higher pay) with benefits contract we've been discussing.

I agree that it is the best I can do in my current situation.  Thanks all!!!
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