gennimom
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« Reply #5040 on: February 01, 2012, 11:31:35 PM » |
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Some people want to look like they've read the latest thing without actually reading the latest thing.
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« Reply #5041 on: February 02, 2012, 12:01:33 AM » |
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<which sounds like something in The Princess Bride now I think about it>
The CLIFFS OF DESPAIR!
The Cliffs of Insanity, and the Pit of Despair. Personally, I still favor our very own Gaping Chasm of Ignorance because it always has room for more. |
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« Reply #5042 on: February 02, 2012, 12:02:18 AM » |
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Why are people who failed the course last term doing worse this term? Already?
Either they don't have the critical thinking skills to be in college, or mommy and daddy are too soft to cut off junior for non-stop beer bong on Tuesday nights. Usually both. Let's get a waterboarding setup installed in every high school!
This has nothing to do with the schools. This has to do with parents catering to their kids' every whim out of fear or plain stupidity, from the moment they were born to the moment they turn 30, still living in mom and dad's basement. |
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« Reply #5043 on: February 02, 2012, 07:55:18 AM » |
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The CLIFFS OF DESPAIR!
This sounds like an Agatha Christie novel. I think we need The CliffsNotes of Despair to keep up with this thread. I wondered if they still existed and a google search brought up the CliffsNotes for The Hunger Games and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Really, people want Cliffsnotes to things that are meant for entertainment? You underestimate the laziness of students. I hear rumors that some professors in humanities teach current novels for various reasons. From what I've seen of students, I'll bet that students sign up for those classes for easy general education credit and then panic when they realize the novels haven't been made into movies yet, but the professors require participation in discussion as well as essays. A market definitely exists for the Cliffnotes of very popular novels. |
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« Reply #5044 on: February 02, 2012, 08:51:31 AM » |
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Advising despair forthcoming...
I have an advisee who managed a colossally poor first semester of college (GPA significantly under 1.0), almost entirely due to not attending classes (including my own.) Long conversations ensued involving study skills, personal discipline, working with the resources available to her on campus. He was determined to turn things around. Midway through the the second week of classes for the semester I find out he's skipping her classes again. I frightened a student in the hallway yesterday when I saw that e-mail and emitted a loud and gutteral shout from my desk.
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« Reply #5045 on: February 02, 2012, 09:41:29 AM » |
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OK, I can understand why there are Cliffs Notes for The Hunger Games, since it is a fairly well-regarded work of YA fiction and therefore probably gets taught in high schools on a regular basis. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is officially blowing my mind.
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« Reply #5046 on: February 02, 2012, 11:10:35 AM » |
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<which sounds like something in The Princess Bride now I think about it>
The CLIFFS OF DESPAIR!
The Cliffs of Insanity, and the Pit of Despair. Personally, I still favor our very own Gaping Chasm of Ignorance because it always has room for more. You do have a point there! |
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Let us consider that we are all partially insane. It will explain us to each other; it will unriddle many riddles; it will make clear and simple many things... Mark Twain
It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. Professor Dumbledore
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« Reply #5047 on: February 02, 2012, 03:05:01 PM » |
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Question from the Cliffs of the Despair:
Is it unreasonable to refuse to give credit to a minor assignment that's been emailed to me when I've made it very clear--in the syllabus, in the assignment, and in class announcements--that students should not email me their assignments? (Students can turn in hard copies OR use the CMS, so they do have options.)
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octoprof
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« Reply #5048 on: February 02, 2012, 04:01:53 PM » |
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Question from the Cliffs of the Despair:
Is it unreasonable to refuse to give credit to a minor assignment that's been emailed to me when I've made it very clear--in the syllabus, in the assignment, and in class announcements--that students should not email me their assignments? (Students can turn in hard copies OR use the CMS, so they do have options.)
Not only is it not unreasonable, you'd be a waffling twit if you accepted it in the way you said you would not. Don't be a waffling twit. |
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Let us consider that we are all partially insane. It will explain us to each other; it will unriddle many riddles; it will make clear and simple many things... Mark Twain
It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. Professor Dumbledore
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« Reply #5049 on: February 02, 2012, 04:03:40 PM » |
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Question from the Cliffs of the Despair:
Is it unreasonable to refuse to give credit to a minor assignment that's been emailed to me when I've made it very clear--in the syllabus, in the assignment, and in class announcements--that students should not email me their assignments? (Students can turn in hard copies OR use the CMS, so they do have options.)
I don't think it's unreasonable, but then that's exactly the same policy I use. I'm not allowed to handle graded material over email, so if it's submitted that way it will not be graded. Period. Similarly, I will not give credit if I can't open an attachment - I've had too many students submit corrupted files as a ploy to buy extra time. On Preview: what Octoprof said :) |
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« Reply #5050 on: February 02, 2012, 04:14:18 PM » |
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OK, I can understand why there are Cliffs Notes for The Hunger Games, since it is a fairly well-regarded work of YA fiction and therefore probably gets taught in high schools on a regular basis. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is officially blowing my mind.
But there's all that complicated stuff about the Swedish financial system, and corporations, and aren't there even some words in, like, Swedish?? Funny sounding names and cities in foreign countries and stuff? |
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gennimom
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« Reply #5051 on: February 02, 2012, 04:25:06 PM » |
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OK, I can understand why there are Cliffs Notes for The Hunger Games, since it is a fairly well-regarded work of YA fiction and therefore probably gets taught in high schools on a regular basis. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is officially blowing my mind.
But there's all that complicated stuff about the Swedish financial system, and corporations, and aren't there even some words in, like, Swedish?? Funny sounding names and cities in foreign countries and stuff? You forgot to <ducks and runs>. |
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...only after reading gm's post, my new mantra is "always listen to gennimom".
Monday reeks! - Garfield The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a person (or something like that). |
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« Reply #5052 on: February 02, 2012, 06:52:29 PM » |
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OK, I can understand why there are Cliffs Notes for The Hunger Games, since it is a fairly well-regarded work of YA fiction and therefore probably gets taught in high schools on a regular basis. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is officially blowing my mind.
But there's all that complicated stuff about the Swedish financial system, and corporations, and aren't there even some words in, like, Swedish?? Funny sounding names and cities in foreign countries and stuff? Yeah, and it's awful because some dude will be named like Borg Eriksson and you're all, oh yeah, I'll remember that is that one guy with the name like bjork! bjork! but then the NEXT guy is named like Mikael Klomborg and then you're like, screw this, what the hell. |
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« Reply #5053 on: February 02, 2012, 06:57:00 PM » |
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Students submitted a paragraph to me on an article about why people must embrace uncertainty to do good science. One student started the paragraph with a statement on how she didn't like the article because every paragraph had a word she didn't know. I would have sighed more heavily when I read that sentence if I hadn't spent most of the time that students were writing with a group of students who flat out stated they hadn't read the article prior to class and conversation with them led me to conclude that they didn't read it mostly because they can't read at that level. I doubt the article was written at a ninth grade level. <sigh>
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« Reply #5054 on: February 02, 2012, 06:58:32 PM » |
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Students submitted a paragraph to me on an article about why people must embrace uncertainty to do good science. One student started the paragraph with a statement on how she didn't like the article because every paragraph had a word she didn't know. I would have sighed more heavily when I read that sentence if I hadn't spent most of the time that students were writing with a group of students who flat out stated they hadn't read the article prior to class and conversation with them led me to conclude that they didn't read it mostly because they can't read at that level. I doubt the article was written at a ninth grade level. <sigh>
But they're only going to teach elementary school - they don't neeeeed to have a middle-school education! |
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