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« Reply #315 on: November 10, 2009, 08:49:04 PM »

Before starting this week's lab, I review the procedure (since I know darned well that most of them haven't bothered to read it.  In fact, one student is reading it - pointing to each word as hu does so - as I speak.) and ask for questions.  No questions.  Then we start and someone asks how to <do procedure which is described in detail in the text>.  I go over it briefly...again.  Repeat this 5 (yes, five!) times in one section and multiply for a couple of sections.  If another person asks me this same question, I cannot be held responsible for my actions.
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« Reply #316 on: November 10, 2009, 08:51:17 PM »

We're in week 12 of 16 of classes. One of my students is angry that she is failing. Her excuse for being late nearly every day of class? Her cell phone doesn't wake her up in time. As she mumbled something about the alarm, or how the time is set, I simply looked at her.

Our class starts at 10am. She lives in the dorms. Her total commute time? A 3-minute walk.

Wow. Sucks to be her!
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« Reply #317 on: November 10, 2009, 08:52:46 PM »

I couldn't get them to see the difference between passive constructions and active constructions today. 

*weeps*
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« Reply #318 on: November 10, 2009, 08:56:02 PM »

I couldn't get them to see the difference between passive constructions and active constructions today. 

*weeps*

The students were tortured by grammar exercises.

I tortured the students with grammar exercises. 

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« Reply #319 on: November 10, 2009, 10:56:05 PM »

The students tortured me with their cluelessness.

Bonus: Ablative of Means!  Oh, wait, they got that wrong on their exam...
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« Reply #320 on: November 11, 2009, 12:17:24 AM »

I am not poseur teaching, I mean instructing, I mean TAing this semester.  So I decide, what the heck why not pick up a new challenge.  Let roll the dice, ooh technical advisor for a senior project which I wrote the proposal for sounds entertaining.

Bang your head, not in the rock and roll way.

I went through the same course 5 years back and it seems students have become lazier.  The faculty doing the actual grading and evaluating of documentation don't care, its a degree mill.  The so called brilliant "sample documents" the current class is provided would have garnered a failing grade when I took it.  Really it would have made our professors then call us incompetent monkeys.  The course used to have the faculty members mentoring students, now they simply herd the students through and out the door with a degree.  It makes me sad, really it does. 

So I try to guide the students towards success and doing quality work.  Their reports are pathetic, so pathetic that I want to cry.  Their response is "Oh that's all we really have to do to get an A."  Even providing them with good sample documents to model theirs on results in complaints.  Why do they have to strive harder when the system is so liquid. 
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« Reply #321 on: November 11, 2009, 12:43:46 AM »

I couldn't get them to see the difference between passive constructions and active constructions today. 

*weeps*
Again!

Once more and this thread becomes a Möbius strip, yes?
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« Reply #322 on: November 11, 2009, 12:50:32 AM »

So I try to guide the students towards success and doing quality work.  Their reports are pathetic, so pathetic that I want to cry.  Their response is "Oh that's all we really have to do to get an A."  Even providing them with good sample documents to model theirs on results in complaints.  Why do they have to strive harder when the system is so liquid. 

Very noble indeed. I suspect that we are all in the same boat though.

I too look back fondly on my younger daze days. I think that the elder generation always speaks low of the younger ones.... I mean, back when I was in college: "..I had to walk 6 miles uphill with old, holey boots through the 6 foot snow drifts just to attend my classes..."

Your plight is not uncommon, nor is it likely to change, but you do have a shoulder to lean on here. If all else fails, I have heard that vodka helps ease the pain....
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« Reply #323 on: November 11, 2009, 01:01:16 AM »

I couldn't get them to see the difference between passive constructions and active constructions today. 

*weeps*
Again!

Once more and this thread becomes a Möbius strip, yes?

That was me last time.

Somebody should probably warn them that I put it on next week's quiz.
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« Reply #324 on: November 11, 2009, 01:09:34 AM »

So I try to guide the students towards success and doing quality work.  Their reports are pathetic, so pathetic that I want to cry.  Their response is "Oh that's all we really have to do to get an A."  Even providing them with good sample documents to model theirs on results in complaints.  Why do they have to strive harder when the system is so liquid. 

Very noble indeed. I suspect that we are all in the same boat though.

I too look back fondly on my younger daze days. I think that the elder generation always speaks low of the younger ones.... I mean, back when I was in college: "..I had to walk 6 miles uphill with old, holey boots through the 6 foot snow drifts just to attend my classes..."

Your plight is not uncommon, nor is it likely to change, but you do have a shoulder to lean on here. If all else fails, I have heard that vodka helps ease the pain....

I've noticed a change in the students in just the past few years, while I've been teaching.  I'm not the only one to say this, but we could be together in remembering the past incorrectly. 

I'm always happy to go with the vodka recommendation.
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« Reply #325 on: November 11, 2009, 08:43:56 AM »

If all else fails, I have heard that vodka helps ease the pain....

I'm a poor grad student, all my Vodka money has been spent funding their project. 

Do I hear laughter? ;-) 
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« Reply #326 on: November 11, 2009, 10:36:18 AM »

The students tortured me with their cluelessness.

Bonus: Ablative of Means!  Oh, wait, they got that wrong on their exam...

I was tortured by the cluelessness of the students.

Possessive or Subjective Genitive? Discuss!
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« Reply #327 on: November 11, 2009, 11:59:02 AM »


If they don't give a s***, why should I? I've got a pile of papers that are an abattoir for grammar and logic, filled with typos, and demonstrate complete disinterest in proofreading.

They're not even fraking trying!

aiiiiigigigigigigig!

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« Reply #328 on: November 11, 2009, 12:33:25 PM »

If they don't give a s***, why should I?

I hear you, airball.

My vent of the day--students who don't do the reading but still love to hear themselves talk.  Trying to discuss a story and determine why the protagonist steals, class was interrupted by a student who loudly insisted that she doesn't care why someone steals, it's wrong.  Okay, snowflake, you're a massive pothead who lies continually about why you miss work and school, so no great moral authority, and no is listening to you.  At this point in the semester, you both bore and annoy the majority of the group.  Do yourself and us a favor and drop this course.
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« Reply #329 on: November 11, 2009, 12:36:58 PM »

The students tortured me with their cluelessness.

Bonus: Ablative of Means!  Oh, wait, they got that wrong on their exam...

I was tortured by the cluelessness of the students.

Possessive or Subjective Genitive? Discuss!

Oooh, you teach the Subjective Genitive?  You're much meaner than I am.  Hats off!

Airball: "abattoir for grammar and logic" is my new favorite phrase.  We used to have a "what would you put on a stamp" thread: "Your paper is an abattoir for grammar and logic!" would be mine.
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First it was Wolfram and Hart, now it's Blackboard.  There's not much moral difference, if you ask me. -- Malcha

Grammar is the chocolate in the buttery croissant of life.  -- Yellowtractor

Okay, so that was petty.  Today, I feel like embracing pettiness.  -- Mended Drum
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