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« Reply #270 on: November 06, 2009, 01:13:54 PM » |
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Sockpuppet, reading beyond the test used to be required in 10th grade--oh forget me, I went to high school in the Dark Ages.
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« Reply #271 on: November 06, 2009, 01:15:53 PM » |
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Ah, the feared and dreaded False Cognate. Gotta love it. Like preguntar , which I'll bet lots of your students would guess means "to impregnate" or something similar. Except that, as one of the common -ar verbs, it's one that they've probably been expected to practice with.
You'd think that they'd be embarazados to make a mistake like that. You have to be willing to make a guess about what a word means in order to even approach the issue of false cognates - if no cognates exist at all, the false cognates really aren't so much a problem. |
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« Reply #272 on: November 06, 2009, 01:17:54 PM » |
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I want to get in line to bang my head over all of the Thanksgiving week excuses I 've been getting. 20 out of 120 students have told me they are taking the entire week off and therefore need to arrange to makeup the exam.
So, just about 17% of your students get the harder exam and lose points thereby. Cool! Or 17% of your students won't be allowed to make up the exam, which means 17% less marking for you. Chime! A week off from classes is a week off from classes when it is scheduled as a week off from classes. It amazes me - though perhaps it shouldn't - how many think along the lines of half-week = vacation. |
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« Reply #273 on: November 06, 2009, 01:55:55 PM » |
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I want to get in line to bang my head over all of the Thanksgiving week excuses I 've been getting. 20 out of 120 students have told me they are taking the entire week off and therefore need to arrange to makeup the exam.
So, just about 17% of your students get the harder exam and lose points thereby. Cool! Or 17% of your students won't be allowed to make up the exam, which means 17% less marking for you. Chime! A week off from classes is a week off from classes when it is scheduled as a week off from classes. It amazes me - though perhaps it shouldn't - how many think along the lines of half-week = vacation. We have Tuesday and Wednesday off next week. Already I'm down to about 50% attendance in my classes. I sometimes wish I were a student so I could take a week off (and the preceding Friday, of course, along with the following Monday) when given a 2 day holiday. I could use a week+ off right about now. |
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« Reply #274 on: November 06, 2009, 02:37:35 PM » |
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I don't tell them until I turn back the first test, but I allow most of my classes to correct their tests for up to half of the points they missed. My attendance after the first test was around 50%. After the second test, only one student missed the first section and two students missed the second session.
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« Reply #275 on: November 06, 2009, 02:40:37 PM » |
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Of course, I don't understand this tendency to skip classes after exams either. Why?
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« Reply #276 on: November 06, 2009, 02:44:31 PM » |
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Of course, I don't understand this tendency to skip classes after exams either. Why?
The only logical explanation that I can come up with is that they assume you are going to go over the exam. Of course, if we are using logic, I don't quite get why a student who got a 54 on the exam would not need to go over it. |
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« Reply #277 on: November 06, 2009, 02:49:11 PM » |
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Of course, I don't understand this tendency to skip classes after exams either. Why?
The only logical explanation that I can come up with is that they assume you are going to go over the exam. Of course, if we are using logic, I don't quite get why a student who got a 54 on the exam would not need to go over it. Also, if the syllabus has a new topic listed after the test, maybe they might miss new information that will be on the next test? |
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« Reply #278 on: November 06, 2009, 03:24:16 PM » |
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Of course, I don't understand this tendency to skip classes after exams either. Why?
The only logical explanation that I can come up with is that they assume you are going to go over the exam. Of course, if we are using logic, I don't quite get why a student who got a 54 on the exam would not need to go over it. Also, if the syllabus has a new topic listed after the test, maybe they might miss new information that will be on the next test? Well, yeah, but that next test isn't for like a long time (i.e., not today) so they can take take a "well-earned" break and just catch up on that material later (i.e., the night before the next test). |
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« Reply #279 on: November 06, 2009, 03:38:28 PM » |
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I want to get in line to bang my head over all of the Thanksgiving week excuses I 've been getting. 20 out of 120 students have told me they are taking the entire week off and therefore need to arrange to makeup the exam.
I had this happen a few years ago to me... I gave the students taking the test early the exam as written. The students who came to take it the day before Thanksgiving, you know, the dedicated ones who take their education seriously? They all got an automatic 20% bonus. hee-hee.... evil, I know... but I was LOVED by the ones that took it at the appointed time. (ps: In all fairness, I HINTED very loudly that it would be in their best interest to take it at the correct time, and not reschedule it) |
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« Reply #280 on: November 06, 2009, 03:53:39 PM » |
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I'm still not sure why people who were just skiving off class were allowed to do a make-up exam. That hardly constitutes an emergency; it certainly wouldn't fulfill the requirements of my uni/syllabus.
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« Reply #281 on: November 06, 2009, 04:02:11 PM » |
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Of course, I don't understand this tendency to skip classes after exams either. Why?
The only logical explanation that I can come up with is that they assume you are going to go over the exam. Of course, if we are using logic, I don't quite get why a student who got a 54 on the exam would not need to go over it. I think it's because if you don't actually hand them their test, then it doesn't really count--lovely magical thinking. Or else they can say "But I didn't know I was failing, because I never got my tests back!" and hope they'll get some sympathy. |
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« Reply #282 on: November 06, 2009, 04:56:54 PM » |
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Fine. But in that first section where only one student missed the day after? The following day, she waited until I had gotten the class' attention to get started to stand up, walk to the front of the room and ask if I had the test for her.
I pointed out that there were many things wrong with that question, but the most important one was that I was starting class. The one with 30 students in it, not the one with one student in it.
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« Reply #283 on: November 06, 2009, 07:16:05 PM » |
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I want to get in line to bang my head over all of the Thanksgiving week excuses I 've been getting. 20 out of 120 students have told me they are taking the entire week off and therefore need to arrange to makeup the exam.
So, just about 17% of your students get the harder exam and lose points thereby. Cool! Or 17% of your students won't be allowed to make up the exam, which means 17% less marking for you. Chime! A week off from classes is a week off from classes when it is scheduled as a week off from classes. It amazes me - though perhaps it shouldn't - how many think along the lines of half-week = vacation. We have Tuesday and Wednesday off next week. Already I'm down to about 50% attendance in my classes. I sometimes wish I were a student so I could take a week off (and the preceding Friday, of course, along with the following Monday) when given a 2 day holiday. I could use a week+ off right about now. So once again my students are weird. Today, I mentioned that the next test is the Friday before Thanksgiving. A loud chorus of voices tried to get the test moved to the Monday before Thanksgiving, the one place I carefully did not put that test because I didn't want to deal with multiple requests for make-ups since I assumed that many students would skip Monday's class to take a whole week for Thanksgiving. Their rationale was that they wanted another two days to study and because the other professors were already making them come on Monday, why shouldn't they take advantage of that extra time? I said no to the class and kept the test on Friday. I am currently waiting to hear back from the student who wanted a make-up given the Wednesday before the scheduled test. I offered her the 8 am slot for a two hour test. She then brought up the idea of asking her 9 o'clock professor if it was ok to be late so she could have the full two hours. I vetoed that suggestion and offered to arrive at 7 am so that she could take her test for two hours and then go to the 9 am class. I haven't heard back from that offer yet and it's been two days. We'll see how serious she was about her necessary trip based on whether she takes me up on a 7 am test administered three hours before the review session class. |
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« Reply #284 on: November 06, 2009, 10:24:46 PM » |
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I had one darling little snowflake come up to me after class on Wednesday, and ask me, "What did you say about a review? When is it?" Me: "It is not a review session. You have a study guide/review sheet posted on Blackboard. It's been posted there for a month." Snowflake: "What's Blackboard?"
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