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« on: September 29, 2009, 03:19:06 PM » |
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just another inquiry as to feelings about another school!
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 03:22:28 PM » |
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If it's the one in Winona, it's in a beautiful part of the Upper midwest.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 03:29:32 PM » |
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yeah, thats the one.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2009, 04:13:22 PM » |
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There's one in Winona and one near downtown Minneapolis. I'm not sure how they're related, though I think they are, as they go by "St. Mary's University of Minnesota - <location>."
Small schools, Catholic. I recall one graduate who tried pass off her degree as coming from "University of Minnesota - St. Mary's." Buzz. Sorry, nice try.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2009, 04:53:05 PM » |
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Small schools, Catholic. I recall one graduate who tried pass off her degree as coming from "University of Minnesota - St. Mary's." Buzz. Sorry, nice try.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2009, 10:13:01 PM » |
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Let's see what I can dredge up... I went to high school not too far away, and we used to go there for Quiz Bowl tournaments.
I don't really know anything about the school. I did go to Catholic school, and I don't think we sent many students there, so that implies to me that the academics are not great, or at least not generally worth travelling for. A lot of small Catholic schools have been hit hard by the recession+all the free labor nuns retiring, so I would check that out.
The area is beautiful, the driftless area/coulee region. Winona is a small city-ish. Twin Cities would be probably 2-3 hours away. MN and WI generally have good public schools and a decent set of civic values. Area is on the conservative/libertarian side politically, but nothing like what I've experienced in the south.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 11:23:47 AM » |
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I have a grad student who went there. She's quite good. Not sure if she's representative, but I'm guessing it's a fine mid-level place.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2009, 11:27:40 AM » |
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I interviewed the St.Mary's in Texas, I am not sure if they are similar but I was impressed by the one in Texas. I too have a grad student from St. Mary's MN, hu is a very good student
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 02:22:09 PM » |
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I know someone who works there very well. I get the impression that it's actually quite strong, though salaries are not great.
Let me utter a gross and horrible generalization: a mid-tier small college in the Midwest is probably better than a mid-tier small college in many other regions of the country.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 10:47:13 PM » |
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I remember a thread awhile back in which Anthroid gave a good description of what sort of school it is. Winona is a lovely river town in SE Minnesota; parts of my mother's family came from the area. It's across the Mississippi from LaCrosse, WI (more or less), where there is a branch of UWisconsin. It's pretty rural and probably an hour from the Twin Cities (the commute would be atrocious, though, in the winter). St. Mary's is not very good, quite frankly, it's a Catholic college run by brothers, and it seems to me to be a dying college--but it's been a few years since I've had anything to do with it (through job candidates and relatives) so I could be wrong. A quick glance at its website tells me it's a comprehensive with lots of pre-professional and professional programs so it isn't very liberal artsy at its basis. But again I could be wrong....
The campus is gorgeous (we've had family reunions there)--it is very bluffy and hilly and forested--drop dead gorgeous in fact (though it's quite...interesting....when a tornado comes through, as one did when we had a family reunion back in the early 1990s). Good luck!
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 04:10:25 PM » |
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I have a friend in the English department there--I think, on the whole, she likes it. Winona-La Crosse-La Crescent is about 80-100k in terms of population,so you get a Starbucks or tow and a Target, but no Trader Joe's or Whole Foods Those are the criteria on which my SO evaluates places we might want to move). It is an arduous drive to the Twin Cities, and there are no other closer easily accessible major cities, so if you need big city culture, it would be a problem.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2009, 05:31:28 PM » |
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I have a friend in the English department there--I think, on the whole, she likes it. Winona-La Crosse-La Crescent is about 80-100k in terms of population,so you get a Starbucks or tow and a Target, but no Trader Joe's or Whole Foods Those are the criteria on which my SO evaluates places we might want to move). It is an arduous drive to the Twin Cities, and there are no other closer easily accessible major cities, so if you need big city culture, it would be a problem.
Yeah, but there are at least TWO Trader Joe'ses in the Cities, so they get double credit. (By the way, the Oklahoma City metro area has 1.2 million people, and no Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. Make of that what you will.) |
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2009, 05:54:49 PM » |
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I have lived in places without the coffee chains you speak of; consequently there are several really good local coffee places.
Come on, people, there is more to the coffee world than coffee chains!
(don't get me started on retail foods and department stores).
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2009, 06:03:20 PM » |
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I have lived in places without the coffee chains you speak of; consequently there are several really good local coffee places.
Come on, people, there is more to the coffee world than coffee chains!
(don't get me started on retail foods and department stores).
I think the point was less "Hey! There's a Starbucks!" and more "There are enough people here to support a Starbucks and similar chains, to give you some sense of the place." There's rural and there's rural. My grad town got a Starbucks halfway through. At my field site (which is actually a tourist area), I don't believe there was a Starbucks and I had to drive 2.5 hours to buy a modem. The former I didn't care about, but it relates to the latter, which I did care about. Anyway, I think LaCrosse seems like a nice little city, but I only spent one night there once... |
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2009, 06:10:56 PM » |
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I have lived in places without the coffee chains you speak of; consequently there are several really good local coffee places.
Come on, people, there is more to the coffee world than coffee chains!
(don't get me started on retail foods and department stores).
I think the point was less "Hey! There's a Starbucks!" and more "There are enough people here to support a Starbucks and similar chains, to give you some sense of the place." And my point is that coffee chains drive out local entrepeneurs or the possibility of local enterpreneurs who come from the town or city and whose profits are more likely to stay in the city, rather than just paying low paid staff. And if the coffee chain is a franchise operation, then the franchise fee leaves the town or city. People have to stop thinking about chains as indicative of support for getting good coffee and the like. I know a place of over 150 thousand people that has but one gourmet coffee chain. Therefore, there are many local coffee places that have sprouted up. What would be far more indicative of a place is how many gourmet coffee shops there are, not just coffee chains. |
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