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« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2009, 05:42:21 PM »

I suspect the hoard was buried by a victorious Celt or Pict warlord after opening a can of whoop-ass on an advancing Saxon army.

Picts? In Staffordshire?

That almost belongs on one of the "what the hell do they learn in their geography classes" threads!

Celts I could almost buy, given that the Mercians and the various Welsh princes warred like crazy (Offa's Dyke is a pretty clear indication of what the Kings of Mercia thought about the Welsh), but the location is all wrong. Staffordshire is the centre of Mercia. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle might be a bit biased towards Wessex, Kent and East Anglia, but we'd know all about it if there had been Welsh raiders 40 to 50 miles inside Mercia.

After the withdrawal of the Romans (410-440? etc.), anything could and probably did, happen. The lack of troops manning Hadrian's wall would have (and obviously was) an invitation to any organized group to fill the power vaccum. Funny thing about tribes consisting of people, they often move. On occasion, with an agenda. It is not unthinkable that the free-for-all that followed was sustained, brutal, generational, and very, very hard to pin down. As for the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, it was politically incorrect to dwell on failures. Still is. Why wouldn't Picts move south in force? Heaven knows their own digs were tough to live in.

Don't be so dogmatic, we learn as we go.
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« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2009, 09:34:03 AM »

Your historical revisionism seems to me likely to be entirely pictitious.
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« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2009, 10:38:15 AM »

Your historical revisionism seems to me likely to be entirely pictitious.

LOL.

Not revising anything, simply staying open to possibilities.
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« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2009, 12:19:53 PM »

We're going to Brum to see it... neaner... neaner ... neaner
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« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2009, 01:17:27 PM »

This link might be better quality than the other link to photos I saw on this thread.  It clearly shows some of the now-cleaned pieces, including the piece with the Biblical inscription, although they are all in a bunch.  The inlay is much clearer in these photos, too.  Pretty splendid.
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« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2009, 03:37:36 PM »

We're going to Brum to see it... neaner... neaner ... neaner

Take plenty of good Pict-ures.

This link might be better quality than the other link to photos I saw on this thread.  It clearly shows some of the now-cleaned pieces, including the piece with the Biblical inscription, although they are all in a bunch.  The inlay is much clearer in these photos, too.  Pretty splendid.

I love the dagger piece with the interlinked dragons. How wonderful...
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« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2009, 03:41:57 PM »

We're going to Brum to see it... neaner... neaner ... neaner

Sigh.  I want to be you, but I can't be you.  Enjoy!
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« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2009, 11:41:25 PM »

What's with those Brits?  They keep finding stuff:

Bluehenge unearthed: Prehistoric site that could be famous stone circle's little sister

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Archaeologists have discovered Stonehenge's little sister - just a mile from the famous monument.  The prehistoric circle, unearthed in secret over the summer, is one of the most important prehistoric finds in decades.  Researchers have called it 'Bluehenge' after the colour of the 27 giant Welsh stones it once incorporated - but are now missing.

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« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2009, 08:59:56 AM »

What's with those Brits?  They keep finding stuff:

Bluehenge unearthed: Prehistoric site that could be famous stone circle's little sister

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Archaeologists have discovered Stonehenge's little sister - just a mile from the famous monument.  The prehistoric circle, unearthed in secret over the summer, is one of the most important prehistoric finds in decades.  Researchers have called it 'Bluehenge' after the colour of the 27 giant Welsh stones it once incorporated - but are now missing.


Am I the only one who saw those drawings and thought for a moment that this might be a "Spinal Tap" spoof?

At the very least perhaps we could dig up Eddie Izzard's classic bit on Stonehenge at this point.
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« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2009, 09:27:31 AM »

Am I the only one who saw those drawings and thought for a moment that this might be a "Spinal Tap" spoof?

Maybe that's why the stones are missing.  They were crushed by a dwarf.
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« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2009, 12:42:06 PM »

Speaking of keeping an open mind...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/gloucestershire/8298825.stm

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« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2009, 12:47:14 PM »

The Goths were open-minded?
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« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2009, 12:50:39 PM »

Well, in his case. open-mouthed. Looks like he took a spear right in the face.
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« Reply #58 on: November 05, 2009, 07:32:07 AM »

Good grief, another one...


http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/novice-metal-detector-man-discovers-stunning-treasure-hoard-1.930477
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« Reply #59 on: November 05, 2009, 07:43:55 AM »

OK, that's it.  I'm quitting my job, buying a metal detector, and moving to Britain.
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