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voxprincipalis
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2009, 02:58:58 PM »

larryc, you are the reason why I went into administration: to get away from the insufferable cleverness and toxic sarcasm of spoiled, self-centered, oversexed boorish baby boomers like you.

Unfortunately, we can follow you anywhere. We are harder to get rid of than that old dried-up chewing gum that has been on the bottom of your shoe for months but that manages to melt in hot weather just enough to get all over your freshly vacummed car floor. Most of us are less green and minty, though.

Also, you're in our sandbox.

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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2009, 03:00:13 PM »

!יופי: עוד הזדמנות להשתמש בעברית
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2009, 05:34:50 PM »


Is it wrong of me to have a problem with the fact that two staff members with whom I work speak to each other about work issues in their native (non-English) tongue in common areas?  It doesn't bother me when they chit-chat in their language (which I don't understand, by the way) in common areas, but when I hear English keywords being dropped in related to our office, I get annoyed.  I believe that this pushes some sort of boundary (e.g., cultural, professional, personal, or perhaps all of these), but before I say something to our supervisor, I'd like to see if anyone has any objective and reasoned opinions, expertise or experience with this issue.

Thanks,
MM

Nothing to worry about unless their conversation sounds like this:

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh Methodsman wagh'nagl Fhtagn big pervert."

If it sounds like that, then don't bother informing your supervisor as it will already be Far Too Late.

Ya Cthulhu, ya Cthulhu ftagn... Niggurath! Cthulhu ftagn! Nyarlathotep! Ia! Ia!

Added on edit: So when do I get to be oversexed?
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2009, 05:38:30 PM »

1) Your pique sounds more along the lines of a need to colonize rather than collaborate. Why do/should they have to tell "YOU"? If they have a tid-bit and want to keep it to themselves, maybe it's because you've overridden them or betrayed their trust in the past.

"I can't get anything from this conversation because I can't participate in the language it's being conducted in" sounds like the real, whiny subtext to me. And I'm guessing that you don't enjoy the freedom the situation leaves you in which to do other things and not worry about what they're saying.

2) Everyone should know more than one language (and not just to meet their Ph.D. requirements) How else will you ever learn to get outside of the box you've lived in since you were a child, to see the world as it is? You need parallax for good vision. A one-language bead on things isn't enough.

And Larryc is none of the things you're accusing him of. Il est un brave gentilhomme
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2009, 05:48:56 PM »

oversexed

Yay me!
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2009, 05:56:40 PM »

larryc, you are the reason why I went into administration: to get away from the insufferable cleverness and toxic sarcasm of spoiled, self-centered, oversexed boorish baby boomers like you.  Unfortunately, administration only weeds out the cleverness and sarcasm.

You can deal with the situation with anger or humor.  It would appear you have chosen the former.  And what does your anger give you: high blood pressure and everyone thinks poorly of you.  Now decide, did you choose wisely?

LarryC - I never find your sarcasm toxic.  Be clever to me!
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2009, 06:34:10 PM »

larryc, you are the reason why I went into administration: to get away from the insufferable cleverness and toxic sarcasm of spoiled, self-centered, oversexed boorish baby boomers like you.

Unfortunately, we can follow you anywhere. We are harder to get rid of than that old dried-up chewing gum that has been on the bottom of your shoe for months but that manages to melt in hot weather just enough to get all over your freshly vacummed car floor. Most of us are less green and minty, though.

Also, you're in our sandbox.

VP

I can't believe I wrote that. I must have had LarryC's oversexiness on my mind.

Sorry for the accidental vulgarity!

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2009, 06:44:56 PM »

Oh (returning to the original question), this one's easy.  Find out who their ethnic/provincial/national/class enemies are.  Then hire one to stand around in the lab listening to their convo, and have him come whisper translations to you & then beam triumphantly at them.  Expect throat-clearings and faintly hostile English within days, if not hours.

Gen X does all this, plus spitballs.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2009, 06:51:05 PM »

the very fact that someone has to suggest this to you explains why there are so many many many things wrong in the land of administration (with a few well known wise and wonderful forumites as the exception - not you though OP)

How hard, difficult, awfull would it be to walk up to your co-workers, with a smile on your face and say "So, are you talking about ... (drop key English phrase here)?  I was wondering about ... what do you think?"

Gee, then you get to find out what they are talking about, join in on the conversation, find out somethign productive and come across like you actually like to work with these people. Unless of course they are trully saying - "Oh man, methodman is such a loser control freak. I love that we can sit here and comment on what an uptight geeber he is without him having a clue.  I know, laugh like I just said something hysterical and then try not to look at him.  It makes him nuts."
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2009, 07:19:03 PM »

Oh (returning to the original question), this one's easy.  Find out who their ethnic/provincial/national/class enemies are.  Then hire one to stand around in the lab listening to their convo, and have him come whisper translations to you & then beam triumphantly at them.  Expect throat-clearings and faintly hostile English within days, if not hours.

Gen X does all this, plus spitballs.


"Convo"?

Have I missed something again, like iPhones?

It's glittery, though.  I like it.
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2009, 07:23:21 PM »

Glad to see you're back, YT...
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2009, 07:48:40 PM »

Added on edit: So when do I get to be oversexed?

What question are you asking?

1) When do I get to be oversexed?

2) When do I get to be oversexed?

3) When do I get to be oversexed?

4) When do I get to be oversexed?

5) When do I get to be oversexed?

Because the answers are:
1) After 0500 until 0355.  There are no oversexed baby boomer academics at four in the morning.  That would be a crime against nature.

2) When you have achieved a relevant level of administration or decided that your life path leads elsewhere.  If you are still aspiring to administration but are not there yet, then you do not get to be oversexed.

3) Your official permission slip will be in the mail as soon as you send me the proper form in triplicate by carrier pigeon.

4) At no point to you get to be oversexed.  Either you are oversexed or you are not.  There is no getting.

5)  If you still wanna, then you have not reached the "over" stage.  If you can still face the idea without wincing from too much use, then you are in the "properly sexed" category.
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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2009, 08:41:16 PM »

This thread is a treasure trove of HOF material.
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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2009, 09:30:50 PM »

This thread is a treasure trove of HOF material.

In fact, I think the only thing not worthy of HOF on this post is the OP.  Can one HOF an entire thread?  Logistically speaking, how would one do so? 
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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2009, 10:44:29 PM »

Two things:

A) They weren't talking to you.

B)  Please have the oversexed administrators over age 45 (ok, ok a little older) contact me by PM. 

Thank you. 
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