artsy_122
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« on: September 10, 2009, 06:46:53 AM » |
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I was having a discussion about this the other day. Under service I list that I was the LGBT officer for an organization (like graduate student senate or student activities...) I just use the acronym because I figure everyone knows what it stands for... and to write it all out is really lengthy.
Am I right? Does everyone know what it stands for? Or should I write it out?
(not sure if this or the job seeking experience is the better board...)
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2009, 07:04:48 AM » |
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I know what it means, but I'm "L". I can imagine, for example, that my former chair would not know what LGBTQ means because he didn't pay attention to things (and people) "like that." Maybe, to be on the safe side, you could do something like this:
LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender) Representative to Large College Body.
Just my two cents.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2009, 07:05:36 AM » |
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Yes, I think most people know what LGBT means. Just an FYI, around these parts, you should add a Q for Questioning but if that was not the title of your position then it would probably not be appropriate to change your title only on the CV.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2009, 07:08:56 AM » |
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Where I'm at, the full (new) abbreviation is "LGBTIQQA". The I for intersex, Q for queer, Q for questioning, and A for allies. I'm going to push that we start calling it "everyone but homophobes." Easier that way.
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artsy_122
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2009, 07:24:50 AM » |
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Yeah - we do not have the Q. Huh - I always thought the Q stood for "Queer" and not "Questioning." Learn something new everyday...
My partner says "if they don't know what it means, you probably don't want them to know." :)
My Undergrad had them in a really weird order. It took longer to memorize the name of the group then it did to come out!
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 07:48:48 AM » |
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Yeah - we do not have the Q. Huh - I always thought the Q stood for "Queer" and not "Questioning." Learn something new everyday...
My partner says "if they don't know what it means, you probably don't want them to know." :)
My Undergrad had them in a really weird order. It took longer to memorize the name of the group then it did to come out!
I jumble up the order all the time. In fact I was about to correct you and realized that I had it wrong again, as usual. Seems unfair that one group always gets top billing but I am glad that L comes before G. ;o) I think that everyone should just list their gender as Questioning, I like that term. Is anyone really 100% one initial, 100% of the time? If so, then those people can be listed as U (unquestioning). So much easier to trim it down to 2 letters. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2009, 10:42:37 AM » |
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I feel old when I tell my students about the pitched battle in the early 1990s to get "B" added to the G and L. Maybe Notaprof is on to something--it could just be "QQ". Queer and questioning. Maybe I'll bring that up at our next LGBTIQQA meeting. ;D
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 10:47:03 AM » |
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Where I'm at, the full (new) abbreviation is "LGBTIQQA". The I for intersex, Q for queer, Q for questioning, and A for allies. I'm going to push that we start calling it "everyone but homophobes." Easier that way.
Ooh, I've not yet heard of the A. I like. - TZ, an A. |
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2009, 10:48:49 AM » |
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I think most people know in a very loose sense of the word. So I guess it depends on whether or not you think it's important in the context for them to know exactly what it stands for.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2009, 10:57:06 AM » |
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I feel old when I tell my students about the pitched battle in the early 1990s to get "B" added to the G and L. Maybe Notaprof is on to something--it could just be "QQ". Queer and questioning. Maybe I'll bring that up at our next LGBTIQQA meeting. ;D
Only problem is that still doesn't solve the problem of the folks who wish to be "non-labeling." Or the poly-amorous. ;) |
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2009, 11:09:04 AM » |
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I feel old when I tell my students about the pitched battle in the early 1990s to get "B" added to the G and L. Maybe Notaprof is on to something--it could just be "QQ". Queer and questioning. Maybe I'll bring that up at our next LGBTIQQA meeting. ;D
Only problem is that still doesn't solve the problem of the folks who wish to be "non-labeling." Or the poly-amorous. ;) Couldn't the polyamorous be folded into queer? I don't know what to do about the non-labelers. Maybe it could be LGBTIQQA(+NL). Or "everybody but homophobes." ;D |
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2009, 12:55:54 PM » |
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What is the I for?
I think I would do what onion suggested - putting the full name in (). Especially if you're applying to depts with more older faculty who might not know (I imagine my parents would be clueless about any of the letters even with my sibling being gay).
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2009, 01:15:14 PM » |
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What is the I for?
Intersex? I don't know, but that would be my guess. |
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2009, 01:25:02 PM » |
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It means people who are not purely heterosexual. Where I'm at, the full (new) abbreviation is "LGBTIQQA".
Hmmmm...I keep thinking of the Judean Peoples' Front v.s.the Peoples' Front of Judea... Or "hu." I appreciate the strong feelings that people bring into these labeling exercises, but progressives are way too into nit-picking these issues and the result can marginalize us and keep us out of the larger societal conversations that need our input. |
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2009, 01:25:50 PM » |
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I agree that it might be necessary to spell it out for the socially clueless.
Among the group names I've encountered - these are fortunately less alphabet soup than Onion's group:
Q&A (queers & allies)
BiGaLA (bisexuals, gays, lesbians & allies)
The Rainbow Coalition / The Rainbow Alliance / Rainbow [school mascot]s
None of these, obviously, are all-encompassing, but I'm on board with the more inclusive "Everybody but homophobes." I've (possibly naively) always thought that "queer" meant "not hetero-monogamist" so maybe Q&A is all-encompassing after all.
On preview, yes, we are probably nitpicking - but I hope that we're working toward inclusivity.
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