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Author Topic: The coming apocalypse, Swine Flu, and you  (Read 9125 times)
euro_trash
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« on: September 01, 2009, 03:00:26 PM »

please discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 03:01:02 PM »

BTDT (I think), and don't plan to repeat it.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 03:19:28 PM »

please discuss.

make me.
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 03:51:54 PM »

I'm really looking forward to the pandemic.  I already have a three month supply of food and medicine for my family.   While everyone else is looting the Piggly Wiggly for milk and toilet paper I'm going to be avoiding the crowds and raiding the public library. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 04:04:37 PM »

I'm really looking forward to the pandemic.  I already have a three month supply of food and medicine for my family.   While everyone else is looting the Piggly Wiggly for milk and toilet paper I'm going to be avoiding the crowds and raiding the public library

...where you will promptly catch swine flu.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 04:08:02 PM »

Only time I was ever hospitalized in critical condition was after getting a flu vaccine so I just keep on washing my hands, stay away from the obviously ill, and hope.  I'd rather take my chances with the flu than the vaccine.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2009, 06:27:49 PM »

Only time I was ever hospitalized in critical condition was after getting a flu vaccine so I just keep on washing my hands, stay away from the obviously ill, and hope.  I'd rather take my chances with the flu than the vaccine.

Since polly_mer hasn't come along yet, I'll do the debunking:  your illness was not caused by the vaccine.



I will be vacationing near the epicenter of the pandemic at the height of the flu season.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2009, 06:40:37 PM »

Only time I was ever hospitalized in critical condition was after getting a flu vaccine so I just keep on washing my hands, stay away from the obviously ill, and hope.  I'd rather take my chances with the flu than the vaccine.

Since polly_mer hasn't come along yet, I'll do the debunking:  your illness was not caused by the vaccine.



I will be vacationing near the epicenter of the pandemic at the height of the flu season.

I am not an "anti-vaccinator", but your debunkinating is incorrect.  This from the CDC, "Almost all people who receive influenza vaccine have no serious problems from it. However, on rare occasions, flu vaccination can cause serious problems, such as severe allergic reactions."
http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/protect/keyfacts.htm
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2009, 06:54:03 PM »

Only time I was ever hospitalized in critical condition was after getting a flu vaccine so I just keep on washing my hands, stay away from the obviously ill, and hope.  I'd rather take my chances with the flu than the vaccine.

Same here. The one and only time I got the flu shot, I promptly got the flu afterwards. I blame the shot. No one - not Polly_Mer, not Spork, not our family physician - can convince me otherwise. Yup, it was the shot. Yup, yup, yup. No, I'm not listening to you with your "facts" about how the shot doesn't cause the flu. <hands over ears> I can't hear you, I can't hear you, I can't hear you...
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2009, 08:40:40 PM »

Wasnt there a major problem with the flu vaccine in the Ford administration?

It tainted my opinion of the vaccine process.

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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2009, 09:40:23 PM »

I'm hoping the flu will take out the know-it-alls first. At least I will eventually die in peace.
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2009, 09:45:09 PM »

I have had the regular 'flu vaccine every single year for the last decade.  I have not had the 'flu in the last ten years.  Spork is right: the vaccine, which contains killed virus, does not cause the 'flu.  If you got the 'flu after getting the vaccine, it's because you were already infected.  I eagerly await both the regular and the swine 'flu vaccines; I will take both.

It helps to be over 50 and otherwise disgustingly healthy.  I'm pretty confident that I won't be taken down by either 'flu.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2009, 10:16:28 PM »

Well my family and I regularly get the flu vaccine each year..early.

My physician tells me my family has already had contact with the swine flu...

The apocalyse...I don't think its on my schedule.



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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2009, 10:31:30 PM »

Sorry guys, the flu vaccine does cause the flu, at least for some of us.  That's why I haven't had one in 12 years.  That season, I got the flu twice.  Once days after the vaccine, and once a couple months later.  In all the years of my life before that, and every year since, no shot, one bout of flu.

It is perfectly legitimate everyday human reason to reject "evidence" that does not jibe with lived reality.
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2009, 10:59:39 PM »

I know there are some infectious disease specialists here on the fora, so they may chime in about the details of what a flu vaccine is and isn't, but...Don't forget that each year the formulation for the vaccine and the strain of influenza that is deactivated as part of the vaccine is based on predictions about which live strain is likely to be most infectious/problematic in the population as a whole.  If you got the flu months after having received the vaccine, comp_queen, you most likely suffered from infection by a strain other than the one that was contained in the original vaccination.
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