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zuzu_
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« on: May 28, 2009, 10:34:01 AM »

http://chronicle.com/free/v55/i38/38a01001.htm

I am totally going to try this a la Joe Bag O'Donuts. I think such a character has real potential to add a sense of humor and community to the discussion board, and I think the tongue-in-cheek approach to advancing discussion and adding a devil's advocate is a fresher tactic than inserting my own professorial perspective into the discussion.

I will clearly reveal my Joe as an impostor in the first "icebreaker" discussion forum. This will CMA against charges of deception, although I certainly can't help it if certain students don't read all of their classmates' introductory posts as instructed ;0

So now I need to think of name for my Joe..
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2009, 10:55:48 AM »

Hmm, interesting.  But I'm confused about how the jdonuts character functions, and especially: how does it encourage students to stay in the class? And, if they know from the start that Joe Bag O'Donuts is some sort of avatar for the instructor, then why do students interact differently with this character than they would with the prof? I don't teach online, so pardon me for my cluelessness.
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2009, 01:08:53 PM »

While well intentioned in an effort to get discussion going, I agree with the students who feel betrayed.  Posing as a fellow student without disclosing that information gives students themselves fodder to justify delving into such grey areas: why not give their info to a friend to use to log into a course site and thereby offer a cheated identity and perhaps cheated work as well? Yes, there are institutional policies against plagiarism, but some students would see a fictional persona as validation to explore grey areas.

Not everyone sees modeling as a helpful pedagogical tool, but it seems that this doesn't set out a very positive model for instruction, or for online behavior--virtual communities formed on some other online spaces, e.g. livejournal, would not greet this kindly: pose as a peer when in fact it's a fictional persona. It is bad netiquette at the least, and if the point is to foster discussion and virtual community, it seems counterproductive.
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 03:47:32 PM »

I thought the Joe BagODonuts was a good idea and agree that having a stealth student is a bad one.  In the past, I've used a fake student (Wile E. Coyote or the like) for testing purposes when designing a course.  Never occurred to me to have the fake student continue on and take the course.

It is interesting that students will interact differently with an online student persona than with an online faculty persona, even when both of those are fronts for the professor.

I've taught on line for five years or so and face to face for twenty.  In both cases, I'm conscious of constructing a teaching persona which is different from "me."  In the on line world, it feels more like I'm creating that persona from scratch, where in the face to face world it's pretty much me, but with cleaner language and a more professional and focused interaction style.

Once, I had the experience of being a fake student in a face to face class of my own. In September and October, I grew a long beard and didn't cut my hair.  Halloween came and for my costume I shaved off the beard, got a short haircut, dressed in student clothes, and joined a 'panel of former students' who were in on the joke.  The panel trooped into my undergrad class and fielded questions about the final project.  At the previous class meeting, I had told my students that I would be out of town on the 31st and that the panel would run the class.  None of my undergrads recognized me and the panel was peppered with questions, some of which were of the 'Is he a hard grader?' variety.  See http://www.basssax.com/images/JonBass.jpg v http://people.emich.edu/jmargerum/images/jontux.jpg for an approximation of the difference.   I only kept the charade up for five minutes, but it was fascinating.  I broke character when it was clear that not to do so would be a violation of trust.

Back to the main point:  I can see where it would be useful as an on line professor to develop a student persona and a professor persona.  Having the student persona, for me, would be as useful from a 'voice' standpoint as it would be from the standpoint of how students would react.  Both voice and reaction would be useful.  That said, I would never obscure the true identity of the fake student.  I agree with those quoted in the column that to do so would be a major ethical breach.

Jon
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