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desert_rat
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« on: April 22, 2009, 12:05:44 PM »

OK-  I'm weird-  I have a son who tried college, and hated it.  Went to a JuCo and is a certified WELDER.  Do I care?  Only that I'm proud of him!  I have a PhD in a professional field in business, and 10 years experience in that profession prior to academia.  Guess what?  I OFTEN look back and wish I had persued my first passion, cabinetmaking.

I think I would have had a far happier life as a cabinetmaker than I have had as a professor.

So, my child's repudiation of tertiary education?  I'm all for it....
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2009, 12:48:48 PM »

Here's a link to the article:

http://chronicle.com/free/v55/i33/33a00105.htm
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2009, 01:02:56 PM »

How about a free link, please?
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2009, 01:15:40 PM »

http://chronicle.com/free/v55/i33/33a00105.htm
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2009, 01:57:55 PM »

The gatekeeper function referred to in the article is the least important part of college education. I'm all for people working with their hands. I'm also for them having a broad general education, the kind you get from a least a couple of years in a "great books" type liberal arts college. Best option is to get some college, then pursue a craft, if craftiness appeals to you.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2009, 02:28:05 PM »

I went to the Great Books school (St. John's) and I remember one of the quotes on their brochures that influenced me greatly: An alum said that he had gotten his degree and then become a farmer; he admitted that his degree didn't help him learn how to farm, but noted that it more useful for helping him learn why he might want to become a farmer.

I think this kind of broad education is very useful at the undergraduate level. How do we demonstrate to our gen ed students the usefulness of our disciplines to their general life?
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2009, 09:54:18 AM »

I went to the Great Books school (St. John's) and I remember one of the quotes on their brochures that influenced me greatly: An alum said that he had gotten his degree and then become a farmer; he admitted that his degree didn't help him learn how to farm, but noted that it more useful for helping him learn why he might want to become a farmer.

I think this kind of broad education is very useful at the undergraduate level. How do we demonstrate to our gen ed students the usefulness of our disciplines to their general life?

I envy you.  I desperately wanted to go to St. John's; they sent me a brochure when I was a junior in high school.  It sounded like the purest form of heaven to me.  My parents, solid blue-collar people that they are, laughed and laughed.  They couldn't imagine a more useless pursuit, even though they are (well, Mom is) very well-read.  They had this strange idea that a person should gain some kind of practical skill and thus never fear being a burden on the rest of society.

I showed them, though.  Majored in English. 
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