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anonymath
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« on: April 07, 2009, 01:51:18 PM »

I've been asked to be a discussant for an upcoming very large conference on a "social science-ish" topic. Having never been in this role before, I was wondering if any fora members would be willing to share their thoughts on what good discussants do.

At my school I've already encountered two very different ideas as to what the role of a discussant is for, and rather than just take one side at random, I'd love to have more information about what a discussant should (and should not) do.

For more info, I've been given 4 papers ranging in length from 25-49 pages. They are "loosely" associated, certainly not all focused on the same main idea.
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history_grrrl
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2009, 02:51:20 PM »

How long does each presenter have to present her/his work? In my field, the typical per-presenter time is 15-18 minutes. Papers of the length you describe couldn't possibly meet that time limit. So right away I see a problem; you'll end up preparing comments on papers that will not be the same papers your audience will hear. I would first make sure to obtain copies of the actual papers being presented; otherwise you risk making comments that won't be meaningful to the audience.

I've seen a few different versions of the discussant role. Sometimes the discussant talks about how the papers, as a group, make a scholarly contribution, revise prevailing interpretations, etc. Sometimes s/he asks questions of each presenter, seeking fuller explication of the presenter's ideas ("I wanted to know more about . . . "). And sometimes the discussant treats each paper like a mini-article submission and makes concrete suggestions to each presenter about how to strengthen her/his work ("I suggest that Presenter A look more closely at such-and-such issue . . . "). I'm not sure there's any one model to follow, but I find that the first two approaches tend to produce more fruitful discussion.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2009, 04:53:21 PM »

History_girrrl - I think there may be substantial differences between the norms of presentation in your field and the social science and science conferences I have attended. My experience of both is that  it would  be unusual for the presenter to read the paper submitted to the conference - instead the presentation is a summary of the key points of the paper and full copies of the paper are available either in the conference proceedings or from the authors.

The good discussants I have encountered are able to make links between the key themes of the papers in the session and provide a summary of 'lessons learned from this work' at the end of the session. I have seen some make suggestions about how work could be developed further: this may be both for the authors of individual papers, and also in the general problem area addressed by the authors. One of the articles I am working on at the moment resulted from a idea suggested by a discussant at a a panel I attended - not as a presenter - a couple of years ago. Discussants may also seek clarification if things are not clear in the paper and/or presentation. My impression is that discussants also need to stay awake and alert during all the presentations, which is why I would be an inadequate discussant.

Bad discussants ramble on for hours about the importance of their own work and how the presenters need to read the discussant's seminal paper on totally unrelated topic published 20 years ago.
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2009, 05:02:37 PM »

Good discussants make my paper sound much more interesting and relevant than I had realised.
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2009, 05:53:56 PM »

Good discussants make my paper sound much more interesting and relevant than I had realised they actually were.

Fixed that for you.

Another historian here, but to me a good discussant 1) remarks BRIEFLY on some common themes in the papers, 2) directs the questions from the audience, repeating each question to make sure everyone can hear, 3) fills in any gaps by asking her own questions of the panelists, if needed.
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2009, 06:04:03 PM »

Good discussants make my paper sound much more interesting and relevant than I had realised they actually were.

Fixed that for you.

Thanks - I guess that was you, the guy sleeping at the back of the room during my last AHA paper.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2009, 07:07:43 PM »

Good discussants make my paper sound much more interesting and relevant than I had realised they actually were.

Fixed that for you.

Thanks - I guess that was you, the guy sleeping at the back of the room during my last AHA paper.

Nah--I was in my room watching the premium channels.

I love conferences.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2009, 03:31:53 PM »

Thank you everyone for your responses. While I know there shouldn't be any  reason to be nervous about this, having some good advice from my fellow fora dwellers does calm me down a bit.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2009, 03:53:40 PM »

Good discussants make my paper sound much more interesting and relevant than I had realised they actually were.

Fixed that for you.

Another historian here, but to me a good discussant 1) remarks BRIEFLY on some common themes in the papers, 2) directs the questions from the audience, repeating each question to make sure everyone can hear, 3) fills in any gaps by asking her own questions of the panelists, if needed.

In my field (political science), the panel chair pretty much keeps time (sometimes), directs Q&A traffic, etc. The discussant pretty much comments on the paper.

I just got back from the MPSA meetings in Chicago. Every year, the same old cr@p. Three or four papers presented in series (although this year the presenters were very, very good), followed by comments from the discussant, aimed at each paper with no attempt to try to tease out broad themes (which were ripe for the picking), no attempt to make the papers more than the sum of their parts, which was possible. The way we present papers, at least in pol sci, is tired, boring, and explains why people watch premium teevee, shop, or gossip in the book exhibit--anything but actually attend panels.

What a *good* discussant does: (1) reads the papers (2) draws out common themes and questions for consideration. This is hard work, but you don't earn your name on the program for just showing up);(3) refuses to comment on any paper that is submitted the night before, under your hotel room's door.

Bottom line--offering individualized comments to each presenter, one at at a time, is boring, unhelpful to the panel as a whole, and is not the best use of time at a panel. Try to add value to the panel, not just ask whether some variable's significance is based on a one- or two-tailed test. That's the sort of thing that can be emailed to each panelist.
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2009, 04:19:26 PM »



What a *good* discussant does: (1) reads the papers (2) draws out common themes and questions for consideration. This is hard work, but you don't earn your name on the program for just showing up);(3) refuses to comment on any paper that is submitted the night before, under your hotel room's door.

Bottom line--offering individualized comments to each presenter, one at at a time, is boring, unhelpful to the panel as a whole, and is not the best use of time at a panel. Try to add value to the panel, not just ask whether some variable's significance is based on a one- or two-tailed test. That's the sort of thing that can be emailed to each panelist.

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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2009, 04:40:57 PM »

I thought this thread was about cold meds.
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2009, 05:18:00 PM »

Good discussants make my paper sound much more interesting and relevant than I had realised they actually were.

Fixed that for you.

Thanks - I guess that was you, the guy sleeping at the back of the room during my last AHA paper.

Nah--I was in my room watching the premium channels.

I love conferences.

Ditto - the only time anyone saw me was when I put my room service tray out in the hall for pick up.
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