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In this article on red-flag conferences, the author suggests creating some sort of panel to vet conferences. Apparently there are thousands of academics in this country who don't realize that things like "an abundance of flags, globes, and multicolored text in conference announcements...and on the conference website" should raise eyebrows. Given the successful investigations into the ORT, right here on the fora, I think we should propose that we be the panel for vetting conferences. Perhaps they can pay for us to go to Hawaii, Las Vegas, and Aruba to check these babies out. |
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Oseph....you are right and you make sense.
For your future comments, I insult very directly.
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2009, 09:06:48 AM » |
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I think I could be persuaded to devote some of my valuable time to this noble endeavor. I would have to be appropriately compensated for all the hard work, but I'd be willing to make the sacrifice. I would like to bring my children along as additional research assistants so that they can report on the quality of the facilities at which such conferences are held.
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2009, 09:20:00 AM » |
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The ORT website does not in fact have flags - but it does have crests, which is just as good! How's this for our first candidate for review? Well, it's actually a website with links to journals and conferences. Here's a conference website with a flag! |
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2009, 09:22:06 AM » |
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How's this for our first candidate for review? Wow, complete with HTML and animated gifs that stepped out of 1997! |
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2009, 09:23:09 AM » |
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2009, 09:24:34 AM » |
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Very snazzy - and how global!
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2009, 09:26:14 AM » |
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I got dizzy looking at that webpage - help the earth is spinning way too fast and I'm not even drinking! |
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2009, 12:55:52 PM » |
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I was amused by this piece, especially since one of the well-known conferences in my field (philosophy) meets five of the seven criteria for being a red-flag conference. On reflection, though, this shows how good these criteria are, since this conference really *is* a vanity conference--100% acceptance rate, with high fees designed to generate income for the individual whose (personally owned) conference it is! He's also the editor of the Journal which has the same name as the conference, and the Society whose conference it ostensibly is has a membership of one!
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2009, 05:10:30 PM » |
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I think "vomitus" is a GREAT moniker.
Congrats to the previous poster.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2009, 05:24:21 PM » |
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I was amused by this piece, especially since one of the well-known conferences in my field (philosophy) meets five of the seven criteria for being a red-flag conference. On reflection, though, this shows how good these criteria are, since this conference really *is* a vanity conference--100% acceptance rate, with high fees designed to generate income for the individual whose (personally owned) conference it is! He's also the editor of the Journal which has the same name as the conference, and the Society whose conference it ostensibly is has a membership of one!
Vomitus . . . you almost made me spew :) To be serious for a moment though (may I? is it ok?)--some of the criteria aren't necessarily red-flaggy. For example--I know a number of legit professional organizations in which organizers or members of exec committees have created a new, personal email account to help manage the volume of incoming communiques--separating campus business from conference organizing. Also--and speaking as a board member of a small, struggling, but I assure you, legit state humanities/fine arts profl. organization, extending the call for papers can be crucial to getting critical mass to run the meeting at all--especially in this economic climate. We don't accept crap--but we need bodies, or the conference (and the organization) dies. We also know that it is more likely that an institution will cough up funding for travel if their prof is presenting. These are real tensions for academically sound, responsible organizations nowadays. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2009, 06:46:31 AM » |
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I have a hard time believing that a single bonafide academic exists in the entire world who doesn't know the difference between a real conference and a sham one. This whole "problem" sounds made-up to me.
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2009, 07:00:28 AM » |
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I have a hard time believing that a single bonafide academic exists in the entire world who doesn't know the difference between a real conference and a sham one. This whole "problem" sounds made-up to me.
Have you never been on a search committee and looked at the applications of the candidates who didn't make the cut by miles? There are plenty of misundereducated and undermalsocialized grad students out there. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2009, 11:17:08 AM » |
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I have a hard time believing that a single bonafide academic exists in the entire world who doesn't know the difference between a real conference and a sham one. This whole "problem" sounds made-up to me.
I wish it were--part of the reason I am so incensed about these scam conferences (particularly ORT) that so many people are duped by them. One of my best friends from grad school fell for the ORT sham--his uni even put out press releases, his dean gave him $4k to go, they had him give a talk when he returned, etc. He quietly took it off his cv as soon as he got back when he realized what a total scam it was... |
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2009, 11:49:11 AM » |
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I have a hard time believing that a single bonafide academic exists in the entire world who doesn't know the difference between a real conference and a sham one. This whole "problem" sounds made-up to me.
I wish it were--part of the reason I am so incensed about these scam conferences (particularly ORT) that so many people are duped by them. One of my best friends from grad school fell for the ORT sham--his uni even put out press releases, his dean gave him $4k to go, they had him give a talk when he returned, etc. He quietly took it off his cv as soon as he got back when he realized what a total scam it was... We had a candidate for a Dean position fly in for the meet and greet who had the ORT on s/h/it's resume. It made me believe they were very Klassy. |
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2009, 11:50:36 AM » |
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I wish I could post screen shots here, at the beginning of the graphic loop at the top of their front page, they have intellectual spelled wrong. Love it! MP |
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