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janedoh
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2009, 08:04:56 PM »

Both SCC asked me to call back if I wanted feedback, so I did.

This is different. You were invited to do so. This means that the SCCs in your case were not, as betterslac says:

labor[ing] under rules, regulations, laws, codes, staff memos, HR guidelines and general common sense that tells them that they should not comment on the performance of job candidates lest it lead to litigation against the college in general and themselves in particular.

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I actually asked if they had any advice for me in the email, so I figured that counted as asking. I included the request as a line in my thank you rather than making a separate email/call. I also figured asking via email was less likely to put someone on the spot.
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2009, 08:15:26 PM »

I think it is kind of humorous that many are so quick to say NO...I did this precise thing last year and it landed me an interview. The chair said he thought it showed drive and motivation.  Just my thoughts...

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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2009, 08:18:24 PM »

I think it is kind of humorous that many are so quick to say NO...I did this precise thing last year and it landed me an interview. The chair said he thought it showed drive and motivation.  Just my thoughts...

sr

I think the OP was wanting feedback about the interview.  So did you land a second interview when asking for feedback from your first one?  Just trying to understand.
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2009, 08:28:23 PM »

I think it is kind of humorous that many are so quick to say NO...I did this precise thing last year and it landed me an interview. The chair said he thought it showed drive and motivation.  Just my thoughts...

sr

I think the OP was wanting feedback about the interview.  So did you land a second interview when asking for feedback from your first one?  Just trying to understand.

Yes, I like this endless loop:

"Come interview with us."
"Sorry, you didn't get the job."
"Why didn't I get the job?"
"Come interview with us."

Are you still trapped in the moebius?
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2009, 08:34:06 PM »

I think it is kind of humorous that many are so quick to say NO...I did this precise thing last year and it landed me an interview. The chair said he thought it showed drive and motivation.  Just my thoughts...

sr

I think the OP was wanting feedback about the interview.  So did you land a second interview when asking for feedback from your first one?  Just trying to understand.

Yes, I like this endless loop:

"Come interview with us."
"Sorry, you didn't get the job."
"Why didn't I get the job?"
"Come interview with us."

Are you still trapped in the moebius?

I was thinking something similar

"Sorry, kid, but we're goin with somebody else this year.  You been cut."

"What?!  How could you?!?  Say, buster, you're gonna regret this one day.  I'm gonna be huge one day, and you'll have missed out.  I'll show you!  I'm gonna be the best there ever was!  I'm gonna be a star, one day!  I'm gonna make it!!"

(takes cigar out of mouth) "You know kid, ya got moxy.  I like you.  Come back tomorrow and bring your gear."
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2009, 09:15:55 AM »

Most of us feel search committees are more like Lou Grant.

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I hate spunk."
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2009, 11:33:21 PM »

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My first year on the market, I got 2 interviews, no offers. After each interview, I thanked the SCC, expressed my regrets that it didn't work out for me, and asked if they had any advice they could share in helping me for the future (via email). Both SCC asked me to call back if I wanted feedback, so I did.

Good advice. A few weeks back, I was flown in for an interview, which seemed to go like a dream. However, still did not get the position.

While very curious and anxious about the reasons for rejection, I did not call to ask "why didn't you like me?". Instead, I called to ask if the SC chair could give me any tips for my future applications. To my surprise, she ended up answering the 'real' question (answer: I had done everything correctly that could have been done. However the research interests of the competition happened to fit into an intended team-research proposal better than mine did).
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2009, 11:49:07 PM »


I think that there is a difference between asking for feedback after you have been rejected and the OP's case where the jobs have been frozen.  In the first case, what could it hurt?  In the best case scenario, you learn something, in the worst case, you've annoyed the SC chair.  So what?  what could she/he do?  They've already rejected you.  In the case of the OP, the search has been frozen.  So:  a, the SC chair already likely to be  frustrated about the situation and more easily annoyed, and b, the search may be unfrozen or delayed to next year.  In that case, annoying the  SC chair by asking for feedback may, potentially, cost the OP a job.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2009, 12:23:20 PM »

Think of it as a first date with someone you are really into. they call to say they aren't interested in going further. How do you seem if you wail into the phone "but whyyyyyyy? what's wrong with me!!!!"

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