liyoudu
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« on: March 01, 2009, 09:46:04 PM » |
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I got a campus visit last week and I was told to expect the final decision early March. As it is approaching, I have got anxious if I could ask for spouse-hiring if they make the offer. My concern is the position is just three-year, though the chair told me both at the beginining and at the end of the visit that it will eventually become a tenure-track position. Under this condition, could I still bring up the spouse-hiring issue? Please, any advice would be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2009, 09:50:00 PM » |
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It depends whether you need a spousal hiring to accept the position.
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liyoudu
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2009, 09:53:05 PM » |
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Thanks for reply. Actually, I like this position very much. Even if they can't find a way to solve the two-body problem, I will still accept the offer, if I were lucky enough to get it.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2009, 10:29:06 PM » |
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My partner and I have asked our mentors about this; he's moving along pretty well in the interview process for a few one-year positions and he's planning on bringing me up if they make an offer. We realize that they might only be able to dig up some adjunct classes, or maybe even nothing at all, but once they make an offer it certainly can't hurt.
The spousal hire's not a deal-breaker for us, though; we're willing to live apart for a few years if we have to.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 11:18:52 PM » |
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For a three-year I think it would be OK to bring it up.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2009, 11:21:23 PM » |
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I'd bring it up when you meet with the Dean. They can't try to help you if they don't know what you need.....
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2009, 11:31:22 PM » |
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I'd bring it up when you meet with the Dean. They can't try to help you if they don't know what you need.....
It sounds like the OP already had their campus visit. Regardless, everything I've ever read on this topic - ever - says don't bring up the spousal hire until you have a written offer in hand. |
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2009, 11:36:52 PM » |
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I'd bring it up when you meet with the Dean. They can't try to help you if they don't know what you need.....
It sounds like the OP already had their campus visit. Regardless, everything I've ever read on this topic - ever - says don't bring up the spousal hire until you have a written offer in hand. Oh, as if we ever agreed on anything! There have been threads where department chairs and deans have said that if a spousal hire question is going to arise it is important that they know at the earliest possible opportunity so that they can play with budgets and call in favors before it is too late. |
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2009, 12:02:32 AM » |
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I'd bring it up when you meet with the Dean. They can't try to help you if they don't know what you need.....
It sounds like the OP already had their campus visit. Regardless, everything I've ever read on this topic - ever - says don't bring up the spousal hire until you have a written offer in hand. Oh, as if we ever agreed on anything! There have been threads where department chairs and deans have said that if a spousal hire question is going to arise it is important that they know at the earliest possible opportunity so that they can play with budgets and call in favors before it is too late. Heh - good point. :) I should have specified that it's everything I've read from the applicant's position. The deans and chairs want to know as soon as possible so they can strategize, but if they know there's a spousal hire and they're not 100% decided on a person, why not bail on the more difficult candidate? That's just what I've read/heard/been told. I am sure the administrators see it differently, but in this market, I'm going to do what's least likely to risk the offer. But I also think this strategy might only be best if the spousal hire isn't a deal-breaker. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009, 05:31:18 AM » |
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Can you bring it up? Sure. You may get lucky and if they can, most department heads will try to help you out. I just wouldn't get my hopes up too much- for a temporary position, they may pull some strings for adjunct work or the like, but they aren't going to create a new position.
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2009, 08:39:27 AM » |
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Heh - good point. :) I should have specified that it's everything I've read from the applicant's position. The deans and chairs want to know as soon as possible so they can strategize, but if they know there's a spousal hire and they're not 100% decided on a person, why not bail on the more difficult candidate? That's just what I've read/heard/been told. I am sure the administrators see it differently, but in this market, I'm going to do what's least likely to risk the offer.
But I also think this strategy might only be best if the spousal hire isn't a deal-breaker.
Yeah, I'd read all that stuff about not talking about it until you had an offer in hand. I still told at the campus visits and got offers. I also interviewed while visibly pregnant and wore my wedding ring, so I suppose I broke all kinds of "rule" ;) |
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2009, 10:53:12 AM » |
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Can you bring it up? Sure. You may get lucky and if they can, most department heads will try to help you out. I just wouldn't get my hopes up too much- for a temporary position, they may pull some strings for adjunct work or the like, but they aren't going to create a new position.
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2009, 12:52:42 PM » |
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Thanks all for your advice. I am going to bring it up when they make the offer and see what happens. The spouse-hiring is not a deal-breaker for me. However, I want to do my best to make sure we are not seperate any more. Moreover, an adjuct position would be enough for me since my husband has no exeprience teaching American students, although he got 2 Ph.D.s in philosophy and his book is going to be out this summer.
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