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[yellowtractor]

I like imagining this thread as yet another feature film starring Leonardi Dicaprio and Kate Winslet.

That way art could supply satisfying closure--dramatic denouement--in a way that real life is almost certain not to provide.

[forest1227]

I think you are talking about a non-issue here. If a school provides an opportunity for their students to commit such frauds, the degrees offered is as good as nothing. So why bother?

[spongie]

This is hilarious. Contacting a university to say you just found out someone cheated during their studies and would they please revoke this person's degree would be hopeless enough. To say you helped someone cheat during their degree and now have a heavy heart about the matter because you're no longer on the receiving end of said person's lovin' would lead to no other consequences than your letter being framed and hung in the admin staff tea room.

[zarathustra]

I think you are talking about a non-issue here. If a school provides an opportunity for their students to commit such frauds, the degrees offered is as good as nothing. So why bother?

I'll bite---so what universities DON'T offer this kind of opportunity for their students to commit such frauds, which is, as far as I can tell, writing papers?

[stitch]

And lets not forget to mention the outcome where your degree is revoked, because you admit to cheating, but the ex's isn't revoked, because there's no evidence they cheated beyond the testimony of a clearly biased ex-SO.

Vengeance has a way of biting you in the @$$.  Move on.

[parispundit]

Justice would involve both of you burning in hell. Better settle for mercy, which means forget about it.

[mouseman]

I think you are talking about a non-issue here. If a school provides an opportunity for their students to commit such frauds, the degrees offered is as good as nothing. So why bother?

I'll bite---so what universities DON'T offer this kind of opportunity for their students to commit such frauds, which is, as far as I can tell, writing papers?

The ones that are high on the Millennium Rankings, of course!

(Interthreaduality)

[svenc]

Do any American colleges nowadays really ever revoke an undergrad degree after the fact?   I have heard of grad degrees revoked, but only with incontrovertable proof of thesis/ diss plagiarism.  Even then, there are notorious cases where this too did not mean degree revocation...

Good question.  I can't come up with any examples off-hand.

UVA did after a cheating scandal in a undergraduate physics class in 2002.  It received quite a bit of press at the time.  45 students were dismissed, and three recent graduates had their degrees revoked. 

I would also like to know if I am putting my own degree (from same university) in peril due to the academic dishonesty associated with this incident. (Although I never relied on any outside sources for my work I am wondering if this isn't a form of cheating that would make the university be concerned with the degree they awarded to me, which was in engineering.)

Kruizi, you repeatedly engaged in serious acts of academic misconduct. I don't think you deserve your degree.  Care to gamble that I'm one of the professors who might vote on this should you end up before a student conduct board?

Keep your mouth shut and move on with your life.

[polly_mer]

Kruizi, you repeatedly engaged in serious acts of academic misconduct. I don't think you deserve your degree.  Care to gamble that I'm one of the professors who might vote on this should you end up before a student conduct board?

Keep your mouth shut and move on with your life.

Chime to Svenc.  Cheating on both sides is wrong so if academic misconduct is the charge, you both are guilty.

[kamiakin]

Never mind the naysayers! You can totally do this. You need to befriend the Dean of Students. "Dean," you say, "I know you want to be a college president one day, but that your lack of a doctoral degree has been holding you back. I can help. If you enroll in a grad program I will write all your papers for you! I just need one little favor..."

[mouseman]

People, people.  The OP is long gone, being either a troll or afraid that somebody would track her down.  She hasn't been on the fora (using this moniker, anyway) since that second post.

[polly_mer]

People, people.  The OP is long gone, being either a troll or afraid that somebody would track her down.  She hasn't been on the fora (using this moniker, anyway) since that second post.

Pffft!  No one leaves here permanently.  People keep reading long after they stop posting because we are such stunning conversationalists.

<putting on the serious hat>
Posts and the ensuing discussion are not simply for the benefit of the thread starters.  Even after the OP has left the building, continued discussion can be valuable to people who are on the brink of making a similar poor decision or who can benefit from knowing what a cross-section of people think about the topic.  That's why many of us respond to threads with "Would it have killed you to you have done some background reading before starting yet another vague 'Anyone ever?' thread on this common topic?"  We've had that conversation and would probably be amenable to continuing where we left off or expanding on some points, but covering the same ground repeatedly gets old fast.

<serious hat off>

I think Kamiakin is on the right track with his suggestions of putting experience to good use.  However, I wouldn't approach a dean; I suggest approaching a regent who has aspirations of being addressed as Doctor Regent.

[sarhajojobean]

I suggest you move on.  Vengeance has a way of turning on you, and make no mistake, that's what this is, no matter how you might try to pretty it up in your own head.

And yes, if it's revealed that you wrote his essays, you can meet the same fate for academic dishonesty.

This is the wisest bit of advice.  No matter how bitter you are, what's done is done, and at this point all you can do is move on.  Since revealing his dishonesty would also reveal your part in his dishonesty, it is my opinion that the institution would revoke your degree as well. 

Take this opportunity as a learning experience of what not to do in the future.

[oldfullprof]

The IRS likes this kind of thing.

[mouseman]

I think we should all be careful when motivated by revenge.  What good will really come of this?  Will you be helped?  To me, we're typically better off simply learning a lesson and moving on rather then spending months or years trying to destroy someone's life.

Pray tell, what wine goes with spam?