kruizi
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« on: February 17, 2009, 01:32:04 PM » |
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Short story:
I helped someone get into a very reputable university (the same one I received admission to as a high school student and attended) via a transfer process from a community college. During the next 2 years, he majored in literature (only because he did not do well enough in his prereqs to get into the Economics major he wanted). I wrote 100% of the essays he turned in for class. No input from him. Not like he wrote them and I edited them but I wrote 100% of them. Needless to say, without my help he would not have passed those classes. I would like to know if such facts came to light to the university if they will revoke his degree. He certainly doesn't deserve it. I don't care if he goes back to get a different degree but his current degree is undeserved. I would also like to know if I am putting my own degree (from same university) in peril due to the academic dishonesty associated with this incident. (Although I never relied on any outside sources for my work I am wondering if this isn't a form of cheating that would make the university be concerned with the degree they awarded to me, which was in engineering.)
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bacardiandlime
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 01:34:25 PM » |
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Why did you write all his papers for him? And why, if you were happy to commit this fraud before, are you now turning on him? (did you two have a personal relationship, like, say, a marriage, which has just ended?)
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YOU ARE NASTY
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kruizi
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 01:43:15 PM » |
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yup, you have definitely guessed it. not a marriage though but we had a personal relationship. i understand things like this happen but i don't think to the magnitude i am describing, not usually.
it's definitely a messy situation. i think at the time i was young and i thought i was being helpful. however, in the end, it's really just fraud and really unwise and it weighs on my conscience. i am wondering if it's too late to correct the situation, as it happened 5 years ago.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 01:49:21 PM » |
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I think you'll be lucky if they don't revoke your degree too, while they're at it. If the school has an honor code with any teeth, that could happen.
And frankly, you'd deserve it.
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2009, 01:49:39 PM » |
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I suggest you move on. Vengeance has a way of turning on you, and make no mistake, that's what this is, no matter how you might try to pretty it up in your own head.
And yes, if it's revealed that you wrote his essays, you can meet the same fate for academic dishonesty.
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yellowtractor
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2009, 01:50:15 PM » |
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Oh wow. And just when the Bullying and Office Porn threads were losing their luster.
Welcome to the Fora, Kruizi!
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2009, 01:52:10 PM » |
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Do any American colleges nowadays really ever revoke an undergrad degree after the fact? I have heard of grad degrees revoked, but only with incontrovertable proof of thesis/ diss plagiarism. Even then, there are notorious cases where this too did not mean degree revocation...
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2009, 01:53:25 PM » |
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What you did was bad. Shame on both of you. Luckily you weren't taking his medical exam tests for him. But, he's only an Economist, what harm can they do...oh..never mind.
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2009, 01:53:58 PM » |
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yup, you have definitely guessed it. not a marriage though but we had a personal relationship. i understand things like this happen but i don't think to the magnitude i am describing, not usually.
it's definitely a messy situation. i think at the time i was young and i thought i was being helpful. however, in the end, it's really just fraud and really unwise and it weighs on my conscience. i am wondering if it's too late to correct the situation, as it happened 5 years ago.
That's not your conscience speaking, it's your desire for revenge, even at the risk of sending you both down in flames. |
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yellowtractor
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2009, 01:54:33 PM » |
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Do any American colleges nowadays really ever revoke an undergrad degree after the fact? I have heard of grad degrees revoked, but only with incontrovertable proof of thesis/ diss plagiarism. Even then, there are notorious cases where this too did not mean degree revocation...
Good question. I can't come up with any examples off-hand. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2009, 01:57:18 PM » |
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Our friend Google informs me that it has happened to former undergrads at the University of Mississippi (caught in a cheating ring). Other than that, though, most of the examples the turned up were of M.A. or other grad students having their degrees revoked for cheating.
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2009, 01:59:00 PM » |
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You were an idiot. But, hopefully, you gained some knowledge from writing the papers and bit of experience about not being used as a doormat. He, on the other hand, has neither a genuine education nor you to push around any more. Move on.
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2009, 02:06:13 PM » |
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Water under the bridge. Move on with your life. Your first new task should be learning to use the shift key when you post here.
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2009, 10:46:46 AM » |
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How did I miss this thread? Why did you write all his papers for him? And why, if you were happy to commit this fraud before, are you now turning on him? (did you two have a personal relationship, like, say, a marriage, which has just ended?)
yup, you have definitely guessed it. not a marriage though but we had a personal relationship.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2009, 11:16:50 AM » |
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First of all, how are you going to prove it ?
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