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« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2009, 08:57:58 PM » |
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prepare yourself for the T-V Ultrasound.
I'm imagining it'll be like the part of a pelvic exam where the doc inserts a speculum. Same? Different? I'm scheduled for a t-v soon, so a preview would be appreciated. Thanks. A little different. The instrument in question for the T-V U is a very dildo-like object that they lube up and then have you insert yourself as you lie in the Position on a table. The technician then maneuvers it around in various directions up down and all around while they take lots of pix. It doesn't usually hurt, but it is a little weird. Usually all of this action comes after an external ultrasound, where they make you drink tons of water before you come in -- and then don't let you pee till they do the scan. That is no big deal -- gel on your belly and a flat imaging device that they move around a bit. Fortunately, you are allowed to pee before the T-V part of the exam...I can't imagine making it through that part with a full bladder! At least, this is how it has gone for me--I've had this done several times at different places so I guess these procedures are pretty standard. |
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« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2009, 10:05:02 PM » |
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The instrument in question for the T-V U is a very dildo-like object that they lube up and then have you insert yourself as you lie in the Position on a table.
Keineidee, thanks. Maybe it's just that I'm tired and cranky, but there's something about this "insert it yourself" procedure that strikes me as gratuitous. I'm all for patient empowerment but what's next, having the patient thread in the endoscope for their own colonoscopy?! |
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« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2009, 10:12:51 PM » |
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The instrument in question for the T-V U is a very dildo-like object that they lube up and then have you insert yourself as you lie in the Position on a table.
Keineidee, thanks. Maybe it's just that I'm tired and cranky, but there's something about this "insert it yourself" procedure that strikes me as gratuitous. I'm all for patient empowerment but what's next, having the patient thread in the endoscope for their own colonoscopy?! Yeah, you are in this totally subjugated position, but you get to choose the angle of entry all by yourself! In a way makes it worse..."thank you sir; may I have another?" OTOH, I suspect it is a lot easier to DIY in this case than it would be with the colonoscopy... |
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« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2009, 08:59:07 PM » |
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The instrument in question for the T-V U is a very dildo-like object that they lube up and then have you insert yourself as you lie in the Position on a table.
Keineidee, thanks. Maybe it's just that I'm tired and cranky, but there's something about this "insert it yourself" procedure that strikes me as gratuitous. I'm all for patient empowerment but what's next, having the patient thread in the endoscope for their own colonoscopy?! Yeah, you are in this totally subjugated position, but you get to choose the angle of entry all by yourself! In a way makes it worse..."thank you sir; may I have another?" OTOH, I suspect it is a lot easier to DIY in this case than it would be with the colonoscopy... I've had this and I did not get the insert-it-yourself option. I've just resigned myself to the fact that any gynecological procedure involves either discomfort or actual pain. I just lie back and think of England. And insist on female docs, nurses, technicians, etc. Does anyone want to talk about LEEPs? Now, that is a procedure that requires bravery! I've had two. |
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« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2009, 09:37:00 PM » |
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prepare yourself for the T-V Ultrasound.
I'm imagining it'll be like the part of a pelvic exam where the doc inserts a speculum. Same? Different? I'm scheduled for a t-v soon, so a preview would be appreciated. Thanks. A little different. The instrument in question for the T-V U is a very dildo-like object that they lube up and then have you insert yourself as you lie in the Position on a table. The technician then maneuvers it around in various directions up down and all around while they take lots of pix. It doesn't usually hurt, but it is a little weird. Usually all of this action comes after an external ultrasound, where they make you drink tons of water before you come in -- and then don't let you pee till they do the scan. That is no big deal -- gel on your belly and a flat imaging device that they move around a bit. Fortunately, you are allowed to pee before the T-V part of the exam...I can't imagine making it through that part with a full bladder! At least, this is how it has gone for me--I've had this done several times at different places so I guess these procedures are pretty standard. I've had 5? 6? (lost count) of the T-V ultrasounds. The tech did all the work (whew - that do it yourself option sounds awful). Of course, 3 of the procedures were followed closely with surgery. ugh. My ob-gyn is my hero. She is wonderful and saved my quality of life and sanity all three times. And yes, I have told her this. Often. |
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« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2009, 01:25:27 AM » |
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What? The do-it-yourself insertion is unusual? I've always been at university hospitals--I wonder if there is some sort of pseudo-enlightened practice going on there...
Never had a LEEP myself--had to google it. The mention of smoke was enough for me to stop reading though. Yikes.
I had all my surgeries elsewhere, so am starting with a fresh crew here for the big event. I wish I could go back to my old hospital and docs, but aside from it being 3000 miles away, it wouldn't be covered by my insurance. Bummer.
The new docs seem fine though. The radiologist sent me powerpoint images of my MRI, which earned major bonus points. Just imagine the artistic possibilities!
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« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2009, 11:15:40 AM » |
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I've had the "do it yourself" version. My doc's office seems to prefer it.
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« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2009, 01:21:58 PM » |
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I would just like to say that today is one of those fake-that-I'm-a-normal-human-being days that make me glad I'm going for the "gold standard" as soon as the semester is over.
Of course, I realized today that I forgot about final exams (my courses don't usually have them but one does this time) when scheduling the hyst, so it looks like some of my grading might be done in a narcotic haze. That's one way to get through the grading experience!
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« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2009, 09:01:22 PM » |
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I don't think my dysplasia procedure was a LEEP, but rather a punch biopsy. All well though, and that was >20 years ago. Now I don't have a cervix at all (hysterectomy took that as well), so no more Paps - just yearly internals. Much easier!
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« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2009, 09:06:16 PM » |
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I don't think my dysplasia procedure was a LEEP, but rather a punch biopsy. All well though, and that was >20 years ago. Now I don't have a cervix at all (hysterectomy took that as well), so no more Paps - just yearly internals. Much easier!
Oh, I had a punch biopsy in 1993. The LEEP, by and large, replaced it. My biopsy involved what can only be described as medieval instruments of torture. They gynecologist monkeyed around down there for a while, and I was thinking "oh, this isn't so bad." Then he straightened up and asked the nurse: "is this the sharpest thing we have?" She said, "yes." He went back in and, well, let's just say that I experienced a little discomfort. Oy vey. Oy gevalt. Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and all of the angels and saints. I experienced discomfort. Ouch. LEEPs are much better. |
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« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2009, 09:07:47 PM » |
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Ewww. Yes, I do remember the "discomfort". (What a great euphemism that is.) I'm glad to hear that the LEEP is easier to take.
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« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2009, 09:13:08 PM » |
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Ewww. Yes, I do remember the "discomfort". (What a great euphemism that is.) I'm glad to hear that the LEEP is easier to take.
Well, for one thing, with LEEPs, they generally numb the area, if you know what I mean. The numbing gave me heart palpitations, but I was happy to palpitate rather than suffer "some discomfort." |
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« Reply #57 on: February 04, 2009, 10:26:13 PM » |
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I had the thing where they use freon (or something) to freeze all of the surface cells on the cervix and then they die and sluff off for the next few days. Then you go in a couple of weeks later and have one of those uber-PAP smears with samples from every spot on the clock face to see if the cells that are left are normal.
The LEEP sounds mildly entertaining, but only on good drugs :).
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« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2009, 11:56:00 PM » |
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I don't think my dysplasia procedure was a LEEP, but rather a punch biopsy. All well though, and that was >20 years ago. Now I don't have a cervix at all (hysterectomy took that as well), so no more Paps - just yearly internals. Much easier!
Oh, I had a punch biopsy in 1993. The LEEP, by and large, replaced it. My biopsy involved what can only be described as medieval instruments of torture. They gynecologist monkeyed around down there for a while, and I was thinking "oh, this isn't so bad." Then he straightened up and asked the nurse: " is this the sharpest thing we have?" She said, "yes." He went back in and, well, let's just say that I experienced a little discomfort. Oy vey. Oy gevalt. Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and all of the angels and saints. I experienced discomfort. Ouch. LEEPs are much better. Shouldn't they have a code for that sort of question? Like, "Nurse, please pass me a number 4." Then the nurse, if he/she doesn't have a number 4, passes back another number 3, "Here you are, Doctor" -- but with the secret hand-clasp to indicate it is the same as the one already being used, so the patient doesn't need to know they are making do instead of working with the optimal toolkit. A "pinch" is already a warning of bad things to come. You know it is a bad sign when they escalate to heavy language like "discomfort." When I had a UAE they actually threw around the P-word, a truly ominous sign. I kept the morphine flowing for that one though! |
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« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2009, 07:03:24 AM » |
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Why, why, why do gynecologists always lie to us? Do they think we're stupid? I would much rather hear, "Take a deep breath and exhale slowly, because this will probably hurt," than "No, no, it's not painful; it's just a bit uncomfortable." Well, maybe I don't really know what pain is, because I'm pretty sure that's pain...
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