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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2009, 11:11:22 PM »

I read the previous thread purporting to address this topic as well as the posts on this thread, and  I'm getting the impression that sex-appeal is a foreign or unsettling concept among academics.

Nope, most just don't think that campus is the place for it. Good appearance, yes - but that is not the same as sex appeal: as one of my colleagues told me of another hire: he is very attractive, but not overly sexy. Unless you are interviewing with a department of true geeks who get more turned on by a woman in a conservative suit than the one whose suit skirt comes several inches above the knees and doesn't bother wearing anything under the suit jacket. It is unprofessional, distracting and the majority of the students don't want to see their professors dressed for a night on the town at 9am.
That's just too bad. Sometimes I just don't have time to change before my 9am. I think they're also a bit disturbed when I open the class by saying "Where the **** am I?" and gargling with coffee.

The trick is to leave the bar 15 minutes earlier and keep a change of clothes in your car and a toothbrush in your office.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2009, 12:10:27 AM »

I hope to God that sex-appeal will give me a leg up. If I don't trade in on my looks soon, I'm not going to have any looks to trade in on.
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2009, 09:51:07 AM »

I kept meeting my students when I was working as an exotic dancer on the weekends, so I gave it up. But I still do a shortened version of my Chippendale routine while they fill out their teaching evaluations--it does seem to help my overall scores...

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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2009, 10:39:21 AM »

I read the previous thread purporting to address this topic as well as the posts on this thread, and  I'm getting the impression that sex-appeal is a foreign or unsettling concept among academics.

Nope, most just don't think that campus is the place for it. Good appearance, yes - but that is not the same as sex appeal: as one of my colleagues told me of another hire: he is very attractive, but not overly sexy. Unless you are interviewing with a department of true geeks who get more turned on by a woman in a conservative suit than the one whose suit skirt comes several inches above the knees and doesn't bother wearing anything under the suit jacket. It is unprofessional, distracting and the majority of the students don't want to see their professors dressed for a night on the town at 9am.
That's just too bad. Sometimes I just don't have time to change before my 9am. I think they're also a bit disturbed when I open the class by saying "Where the **** am I?" and gargling with coffee.

Has anyone else besides me ever been driving to work in the early a.m. and seen any of their students walking (presumably toward home) in their "nighttime attire"? Why is it typically the 20 year old female with no coat and short short skirt with heels and a large bag slung over her shoulder? You wonder how that morning conversation went...
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2009, 10:44:23 AM »

I read the previous thread purporting to address this topic as well as the posts on this thread, and  I'm getting the impression that sex-appeal is a foreign or unsettling concept among academics.

Nope, most just don't think that campus is the place for it. Good appearance, yes - but that is not the same as sex appeal: as one of my colleagues told me of another hire: he is very attractive, but not overly sexy. Unless you are interviewing with a department of true geeks who get more turned on by a woman in a conservative suit than the one whose suit skirt comes several inches above the knees and doesn't bother wearing anything under the suit jacket. It is unprofessional, distracting and the majority of the students don't want to see their professors dressed for a night on the town at 9am.
That's just too bad. Sometimes I just don't have time to change before my 9am. I think they're also a bit disturbed when I open the class by saying "Where the **** am I?" and gargling with coffee.

Has anyone else besides me ever been driving to work in the early a.m. and seen any of their students walking (presumably toward home) in their "nighttime attire"? Why is it typically the 20 year old female with no coat and short short skirt with heels and a large bag slung over her shoulder? You wonder how that morning conversation went...
In my day we called it "The Walk of Shame." We weren't prudes, there was just something awkward about having the neon sign over your head at 8am.
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2009, 01:48:52 PM »

I'll tell you how I tip the scales in my favor.

I pick the graduate student with the lowest self-esteem.  At the little reception after my job talk, I mention to him that I'd like to meet him for drinks to talk about the school after my official job dinner with the faculty.

I buy him a drink and then go home with him.

The next morning, I show up in the department with him in the same outfit from last night, hair all sexily mussed, announcing that he was kind enough to make me some fantastic pancakes that morning before driving me into the department.

I then ask who'd like to escort me over to the Dean's office for my little meeting with her.

The male faculty fall all over themselves for the honor.

I highly recommend this version of the Walk of Shame as a way of using your sex-appeal to tip the scales.  Once the faculty have seen that you'll go home with even the saddest sap among the grad students, they are filled with hope for their own chances.

Of course in my case, this works only if the male voting members of faculty outnumber the female voting members.  Obviously this plan works even better if you are bisexual.

I highly encourage the OP to try this. 
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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2009, 01:51:15 PM »

I read the previous thread purporting to address this topic as well as the posts on this thread, and  I'm getting the impression that sex-appeal is a foreign or unsettling concept among academics.

You'd posted what you've posted here and you use the moniker speedstick.

I'm getting the impression that sex is on your mind a bit more often than academics.
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2009, 01:52:39 PM »


What are the sexual implications of the term speedstick ?
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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2009, 01:56:03 PM »


What are the sexual implications of the term speedstick ?

Yeah, I can't imagine they're good.
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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2009, 02:03:09 PM »

It certainly does tip the scales.  I favor leopard accessories when interacting with younger colleagues.
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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2009, 02:39:00 PM »

Oh man, you mean you have to be good looking to get a good job?
Crap.

I have to go back and get different parents.

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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2009, 02:42:55 PM »

Oh man, you mean you have to be good looking to get a good job?
Crap.

I have to go back and get different parents.



Not necessarily good looking - you just have to hope that the other candidates have a case of the super-uglies.


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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2009, 03:12:28 PM »

Actually, I chose the name 'speedstick' simply because my deodorant Speedstick Irish Spring icy Blast was sitting next to my computer when I needed to come with a moniker for this board. That's it. There is/was no sexual connotation on my mind; perhaps there was on the mind of the ad agency that named the deodorant.
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2009, 03:44:13 PM »

Does sex-appeal tip the scales? No. Appearing confident, neat, and professional will certainly help you - particularly if your competition is nervous and sloppy. Is confidence sexy? Yes. Am I contradicting myself? No. Are we clear?
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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2009, 04:31:43 PM »

The New York Academy of Science seems to find evidence that sex-appeal/beauty significantly affects hiring practices:

http://www.physorg.com/news116169372.html
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