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Given what some have been saying on the 'what to wear on a two-day interview' thread, it appears that sex-appeal--phyisical appearance--matters in academia, whether for faculty or admin positions. Some made reference to going 'commando', obviously to entice the panel with their hidden talents. True? If so, to what extent does sex-appeal factor into the equation? How can one, both male and female, maximize this feature of their make-up without damaging their chances? I'm kidding here, but if the stud below walked into his interview like that, how likely is it that he would get the thumbs down? http://bp2.blogger.com/_-74pvoRezco/R8hscmtWnkI/AAAAAAAAA3c/lpDQrt2cYLM/s1600-h/Andrew_Zollner_vault.jpg |
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2009, 06:34:31 PM » |
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I just hate it that I constantly have to like everyone and everything. -- moonstone
O, what a hateful feminist concoction!
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bacardiandlime
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2009, 06:34:51 PM » |
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I don't know if you're expecting a serious response here. The comments about 'going commando' etc were jokes. (and in fact, I don't think that would help 'enhance' one's appeal: good foundation garments with selective padding might though).
It has been found that more attractive people tend to be perceived better, and therefore do better, in pretty well all situations. So that would include academia.
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2009, 06:53:03 PM » |
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At this point I'm uncertain whether you (OP) are nervous and working off anxiety or trying to work every single element possible of interview situations. The first can be useful (in moderation) the second usually provides an overload of information that causes paralysis at critical moments or else an erratic presentation of self.
This is a subject that has been discussed to death both here and in virtually all popular (and even some scholarly lit) publications. Overt "sexiness" in dress or demeanor puts some people off and at best its a "wash" if more than one person makes a hiring decision. Being generically good-looking has been proved by study after study to be beneficial whether you are applying for a job in any profession or looking to impress a jury or just in making friends.
But, back to my first question---if you are really gathering info for interviewing, please learn to use the search function so we don't have to have round 2000 of the same discussion that yields the same information and the same fights. If you are burning off anxiety, please learn to use it so you can avoid re-treading these same topics in favor of coming up with something fresh. The fora will thank you for it.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2009, 06:58:30 PM » |
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I can have any job I want. And any woman. And most pastries. I am that sexy.
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2009, 08:04:14 PM » |
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@sciencePHD, that was precisely the thread I thought of.
@jackalope: the older I get, the more I envy you the pastry.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2009, 09:27:23 PM » |
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Thanks for finding that thread - what a blast from the past! |
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2009, 09:36:07 PM » |
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I read the previous thread purporting to address this topic as well as the posts on this thread, and I'm getting the impression that sex-appeal is a foreign or unsettling concept among academics.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2009, 09:41:55 PM » |
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I read the previous thread purporting to address this topic as well as the posts on this thread, and I'm getting the impression that sex-appeal is a foreign or unsettling concept among academics.
Nope, most just don't think that campus is the place for it. Good appearance, yes - but that is not the same as sex appeal: as one of my colleagues told me of another hire: he is very attractive, but not overly sexy. Unless you are interviewing with a department of true geeks who get more turned on by a woman in a conservative suit than the one whose suit skirt comes several inches above the knees and doesn't bother wearing anything under the suit jacket. It is unprofessional, distracting and the majority of the students don't want to see their professors dressed for a night on the town at 9am. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2009, 09:45:53 PM » |
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I can have any job I want. And any woman. And most pastries. I am that sexy.
That's why I've always had such bad luck with Danish. *sigh* I think this thread exists only because the OP wanted to post a link to that photo. (reminds me faintly of my ex. Who was Danish) |
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2009, 09:50:49 PM » |
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Weird vibe. Again.
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I just hate it that I constantly have to like everyone and everything. -- moonstone
O, what a hateful feminist concoction!
Jews, communists, "lesbians", feminists and marihuana addicts --Pyshnov
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2009, 09:57:48 PM » |
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Well, I'll take weird any day over hostile and bitter.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2009, 10:03:29 PM » |
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Are you still "secretly testing" your refernces ???
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I just hate it that I constantly have to like everyone and everything. -- moonstone
O, what a hateful feminist concoction!
Jews, communists, "lesbians", feminists and marihuana addicts --Pyshnov
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2009, 10:06:26 PM » |
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Nope, most just don't think that campus is the place for it. Good appearance, yes - but that is not the same as sex appeal: as one of my colleagues told me of another hire: he is very attractive, but not overly sexy.
Oh pshaw. I don't think I'm particularly shallow, but everything else being equal I'm definitely voting for the hot future colleague! Not that sex appeal makes up for a pub in a hot journal or anything, but still ... Daniel Hamermesh, an economist at UT-Austin, has had several publications quantifying benefits to appearance. The one on professor's evalaution scores is particularly fun (One finding: Both men and women enjoy a "attractiveness" bonus, but homely male professors are penalized in their scores compared to those of average appearance, whereas homely female ones are not). If anyone is interested, his "beauty" papers are available online at http://www.eco.utexas.edu/faculty/Hamermesh/Beautystuff.html. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2009, 10:59:42 PM » |
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I read the previous thread purporting to address this topic as well as the posts on this thread, and I'm getting the impression that sex-appeal is a foreign or unsettling concept among academics.
Nope, most just don't think that campus is the place for it. Good appearance, yes - but that is not the same as sex appeal: as one of my colleagues told me of another hire: he is very attractive, but not overly sexy. Unless you are interviewing with a department of true geeks who get more turned on by a woman in a conservative suit than the one whose suit skirt comes several inches above the knees and doesn't bother wearing anything under the suit jacket. It is unprofessional, distracting and the majority of the students don't want to see their professors dressed for a night on the town at 9am. That's just too bad. Sometimes I just don't have time to change before my 9am. I think they're also a bit disturbed when I open the class by saying "Where the **** am I?" and gargling with coffee. |
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