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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2009, 09:46:09 PM »

On a two-day campus visit at another institution, a colleague spent part of the night in jail with a member of the search committee (for drunk & disorderly conduct).

Oh come on, you must provide more details!  Even if it's just 'a friend' or 'a friend of a friend,' this one has real potential.  Pretty please?

Dish dish dish! Start a new moniker if you must...
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 09:47:39 PM »

On a two-day campus visit at another institution, a colleague spent part of the night in jail with a member of the search committee (for drunk & disorderly conduct).

Oh come on, you must provide more details!  Even if it's just 'a friend' or 'a friend of a friend,' this one has real potential.  Pretty please?

Yes, you can make it a sort of parable.  Maybe Dolljepopp will even be able to work it into his wedding ceremony.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 09:54:28 PM »

Honestly, I balked at posting even that much of the story. It's not mine to tell and I would hate for the colleague to stumble on this someday and recognize himself in the post!

But it does make a good parable, so I'll sketch it out regardless: Applicant and SC member stick around for drinks after the dinner; both get inebriated; SC member drives under the influence and gets pulled over, sasses cop in the process, and is arrested with applicant in tow; applicant gets out in time to make it to day 2 of the interview, but has to cover for absent SC member (who is dealing with angry spouse and a hangover) ...

Applicant gets offer.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2009, 10:11:37 PM »

An applicant to our grad program asked the chair of the admissions committee during a social gathering:
 
Applicant: "where are you from?"
Chair: "San Francisco"
Applicant: "not really"
Chair: Do you mean my ethnicity? My grandparents are Korean.
Applicant: Really? You look more Chinese to me.

Failed. A.

Stories like that always make me wonder if the applicant would ever even figure out what happened to make their unsinkable application sink.

Yes, they come to the fora for advice, describe the situation with their visit as they experienced it, and then come to the conclusion that it was due to either an insider posting, or misspelling a word in their powerpoint presentation.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2009, 10:49:27 PM »

Honestly, I balked at posting even that much of the story. It's not mine to tell and I would hate for the colleague to stumble on this someday and recognize himself in the post!

But it does make a good parable, so I'll sketch it out regardless: Applicant and SC member stick around for drinks after the dinner; both get inebriated; SC member drives under the influence and gets pulled over, sasses cop in the process, and is arrested with applicant in tow; applicant gets out in time to make it to day 2 of the interview, but has to cover for absent SC member (who is dealing with angry spouse and a hangover) ...

Applicant gets offer.

That really is a good parable, plus a rockin' place of employment.  Sheesh.
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2009, 10:57:05 PM »

Applicant:  "Um, before we have dinner at this really nice restaurant, could I. . . take a 15-minute nap in your car?"

SC member:  "Uh. . . ok."

Applicant?  got the job.  I think we must assume the other two candidates tanked.
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2009, 11:01:02 PM »

Applicant:  "Um, before we have dinner at this really nice restaurant, could I. . . take a 15-minute nap in your car?"

SC member:  "Uh. . . ok."

Applicant?  got the job.  I think we must assume the other two candidates tanked.

You just don't realize how I can sparkle at a dinner after I've had a little nap.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2009, 01:07:20 AM »

Honestly, I balked at posting even that much of the story. It's not mine to tell and I would hate for the colleague to stumble on this someday and recognize himself in the post!

But it does make a good parable, so I'll sketch it out regardless: Applicant and SC member stick around for drinks after the dinner; both get inebriated; SC member drives under the influence and gets pulled over, sasses cop in the process, and is arrested with applicant in tow; applicant gets out in time to make it to day 2 of the interview, but has to cover for absent SC member (who is dealing with angry spouse and a hangover) ...

Applicant gets offer.

Freaking spectacular.

Why is my life not more like this?

I guess it's because I'm an adult now.  But I can long for those days!!!  Who gets to live such an extended childhood?
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2009, 01:12:46 AM »

Applicant:  "Um, before we have dinner at this really nice restaurant, could I. . . take a 15-minute nap in your car?"

SC member:  "Uh. . . ok."

Applicant?  got the job.  I think we must assume the other two candidates tanked.

You just don't realize how I can sparkle at a dinner after I've had a little nap.

I once took a "bathroom break," set my cell phone alarm to go off, and took a quick power nap while sitting on the pot in the bathroom at an interview.  I didn't actually fall asleep because I was still so hopped up on adrenaline, but sitting with my head against the cool stall wall for a few minutes was a nice break from a 14-hour long interview day.  7:30 am until 11:30 pm non-stop was a bit much. 
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2009, 01:15:32 AM »


Honestly, I balked at posting even that much of the story. It's not mine to tell and I would hate for the colleague to stumble on this someday and recognize himself in the post!

But it does make a good parable, so I'll sketch it out regardless: Applicant and SC member stick around for drinks after the dinner; both get inebriated; SC member drives under the influence and gets pulled over, sasses cop in the process, and is arrested with applicant in tow; applicant gets out in time to make it to day 2 of the interview, but has to cover for absent SC member (who is dealing with angry spouse and a hangover) ...

Applicant gets offer.

Offer? He should have gotten tenure!!!!

Great story.

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2009, 01:34:35 AM »


Honestly, I balked at posting even that much of the story. It's not mine to tell and I would hate for the colleague to stumble on this someday and recognize himself in the post!

But it does make a good parable, so I'll sketch it out regardless: Applicant and SC member stick around for drinks after the dinner; both get inebriated; SC member drives under the influence and gets pulled over, sasses cop in the process, and is arrested with applicant in tow; applicant gets out in time to make it to day 2 of the interview, but has to cover for absent SC member (who is dealing with angry spouse and a hangover) ...

Applicant gets offer.

Offer? He should have gotten tenure!!!!

Agreed. This experience no doubt revealed far more about applicant's aptitude for academic life (and, specifically, the all-important ability to deal with bizarre colleagues) than a million interview questions.

It makes me wonder whether search committees should designate one member to get plastered and obnoxious at the candidate dinner, just to see how the candidate handles it.
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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2009, 10:58:00 AM »

It makes me wonder whether search committees should designate one member to get plastered and obnoxious at the candidate dinner, just to see how the candidate handles it.

That explains so much about the last couple of interviews.
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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2009, 01:06:38 PM »

It makes me wonder whether search committees should designate one member to get plastered and obnoxious at the candidate dinner, just to see how the candidate handles it.

My sister got a post-doc offer after going out with "the boys" and successfully take them around town  and keeping them out of too much trouble.  Nothing like being the youngest in the lab and still designated "den mother".  Funny, she ended up HATING that job.  Gee...I wonder why?
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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2009, 01:26:58 PM »

Applicant:  "Um, before we have dinner at this really nice restaurant, could I. . . take a 15-minute nap in your car?"

SC member:  "Uh. . . ok."

Applicant?  got the job.  I think we must assume the other two candidates tanked.

You just don't realize how I can sparkle at a dinner after I've had a little nap.

I once took a "bathroom break," set my cell phone alarm to go off, and took a quick power nap while sitting on the pot in the bathroom at an interview.  I didn't actually fall asleep because I was still so hopped up on adrenaline, but sitting with my head against the cool stall wall for a few minutes was a nice break from a 14-hour long interview day.  7:30 am until 11:30 pm non-stop was a bit much. 

An excellent idea. I'm a fan of taking "bathroom breaks" whenever one needs a minute to rest.
And yes, I have fallen asleep in a bathroom before.
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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2009, 04:15:28 PM »

Heck, at one interview I had about an hour down time between meetings, so I sat on a couch in the department's break room, rested my head on my hand and dozed.  Periodically people would come through and i would just look up and smile and say, "gotta get that catnap" or something like that.

Didn't get that job, but they had an internal candidate.
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