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Question: What Perecentage of Poster are NOT Academics?
0 - 10% - 12 (30.8%)
10 - 20% - 14 (35.9%)
20 - 50% - 10 (25.6%)
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Author Topic: Nonacademics on the Fora?  (Read 29788 times)
grasshopper
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2009, 01:57:46 PM »

I agree. I think we should round them up and kick them out. Let them start their own club.

And while we're at it, let's also get rid of snotty undergrads who question what I say.
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2009, 02:17:06 PM »

After seeing some recent posts by an established formite, it became very clear that this person was not, nor ever has been, an academic.

What do you think about those who post here who are not academics? 


I'll bite: Why do you care?  Because not too many other people seem to.

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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2009, 02:19:53 PM »

I'm also a little hung up on what a formite is.  Perhaps a particularly shapely poster?
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2009, 02:23:52 PM »

Sigh.

I grow weary of having to explain this. Perhaps it should be posted on an entry page when one clicks on the "Forums" link. (Mods?)

OK, one last time:


Virtually no one here is an academic by any definition. The Fora are almost entirely written by "the clique", a group of now-seventeen-year-olds that live near Modesto. Of the original group of nine, only six remain. One became absorbed in World of Warcraft and dropped out, one found the Lord, and one moved to Salinas, where he now hangs with (and I'm using his words here) "a less nerdy crowd".

The Fora (original title: "Busker and His Friend Sylvio") began as an eighth-grade English class assignment. All nine of the original group were in Ms BloodShot Daffodil's class a few years ago. (This is her legal name. She changed it after receiving her BA in English at Antioch. She later finished an MFA in Creative Writing at the Iowa Writer's Workshop. Her poetry -- a mixture of angry free verse and melodic pastorals -- has a small but passionate following.)

Since their inception, the Fora have been joined by a few resolute, still mostly non-academic souls. (I am a parole officer in Santa Fe.)

Since the remaining writers are all off to college themselves in the fall (except for the one called "Louisa", who plans to spend a year hiking the Outback), there has been of late considerable behind-the-scenes gnashing of teeth over what should happen next. The loudest voices in the argument want to kill it all off.
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2009, 02:25:08 PM »

I'm also a little hung up on what a formite is.  Perhaps a particularly shapely poster?

Don't they make kitchen counters out of formite?
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2009, 02:33:03 PM »

I'm also a little hung up on what a formite is.  Perhaps a particularly shapely poster?

Don't they make kitchen counters out of formite?

No, it's a new, special kind of plastic explosive developed by sciencephd.
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2009, 02:35:30 PM »

I'm also a little hung up on what a formite is.  Perhaps a particularly shapely poster?

Don't they make kitchen counters out of formite?

No, it's a new, special kind of plastic explosive developed by sciencephd.

I told u that in the strictest confidence.   Bolshevik conspiritors everywhere !
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2009, 02:38:50 PM »

I'm also a little hung up on what a formite is.  Perhaps a particularly shapely poster?

Don't they make kitchen counters out of formite?

No, it's a new, special kind of plastic explosive developed by sciencephd.

I told u that in the strictest confidence.   Bolshevik conspiritors everywhere !

No no no!  Formite is what you get when two-mite meets two-mite.
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2009, 02:41:35 PM »

Virtually no one here is an academic by any definition. The Fora are almost entirely written by "the clique", a group of now-seventeen-year-olds that live near Modesto. Of the original group of nine, only six remain. One became absorbed in World of Warcraft and dropped out, one found the Lord, and one moved to Salinas, where he now hangs with (and I'm using his words here) "a less nerdy crowd".

I've been thinking of switching to right-wing blogs after the inauguration.
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2009, 02:46:50 PM »

If someone really cares:

I am an independent scholar who adjuncts when the work is available. I've taught at private and public universities. As a "trailing spouse" to a scientist, my pay on the TT would never match his in industry, so we've decided that where he goes--and his company shuffles people around fairly frequently--I go. Therefore, I'm not on the market for a TT position, nor do I ever foresee being so. I conduct research and produce books and articles in the humanities. I go to all of my annual national conferences and present. I do a ton of service work: reviews, committees, grant evaluators, you name it. I've been employed as a development editor for several textbook publishers, have worked and continue to work as the editor of scholarly journals and publications, and do freelance academic editing. I've served as an academic consultant on non-academic projects and with non-adacemic publishers.

If that makes me a non-academic, well, pfffft.
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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2009, 02:56:31 PM »

Personally, I think we should be strung up.  The nerve.

I can't find my epaulettes, pyromania, but I'm sure they're around here somewhere.  Till I find them just put these bar mitzvah yarmulkes on your shoulders and start rounding 'em up.  I mean us.  Well, not me, anyway, till I find your epaulettes.  That's not an excuse.
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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2009, 02:59:18 PM »

If someone really cares:

I am an independent scholar who adjuncts when the work is available. I've taught at private and public universities. As a "trailing spouse" to a scientist, my pay on the TT would never match his in industry, so we've decided that where he goes--and his company shuffles people around fairly frequently--I go. Therefore, I'm not on the market for a TT position, nor do I ever foresee being so. I conduct research and produce books and articles in the humanities. I go to all of my annual national conferences and present. I do a ton of service work: reviews, committees, grant evaluators, you name it. I've been employed as a development editor for several textbook publishers, have worked and continue to work as the editor of scholarly journals and publications, and do freelance academic editing. I've served as an academic consultant on non-academic projects and with non-adacemic publishers.

If that makes me a non-academic, well, pfffft.

You go, Bibliothecula!  I'm going to start a thread just for cool, independent people like us.  I think I will put it under...hmm... Research Questions.
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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2009, 03:02:29 PM »

If someone really cares:

I am an independent scholar who adjuncts when the work is available. I've taught at private and public universities. As a "trailing spouse" to a scientist, my pay on the TT would never match his in industry, so we've decided that where he goes--and his company shuffles people around fairly frequently--I go. Therefore, I'm not on the market for a TT position, nor do I ever foresee being so. I conduct research and produce books and articles in the humanities. I go to all of my annual national conferences and present. I do a ton of service work: reviews, committees, grant evaluators, you name it. I've been employed as a development editor for several textbook publishers, have worked and continue to work as the editor of scholarly journals and publications, and do freelance academic editing. I've served as an academic consultant on non-academic projects and with non-adacemic publishers.

If that makes me a non-academic, well, pfffft.

Actually I think you totally belong here bibliothecula - as do aspiring profs, grad students, and those who have once worked in academica.  Sorry if my initial definition seemed a bit narrow.
   
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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2009, 03:05:32 PM »

Let's go with the following definition:

An academic is employed by a university to teach and/or publish.

D@MN IT!

I only teach at a community college.

Carp.

What the heck am I going to do now that I'm getting kicked out? Hmm... I have that lucrative pt job personalizing bats. Perhaps I should try that ft?

Goodbye cruel fora. I'm moving to Salinas.

Alan
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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2009, 03:08:03 PM »

I'm also a little hung up on what a formite is.  Perhaps a particularly shapely poster?
Don't they make kitchen counters out of formite?
No, it's a new, special kind of plastic explosive developed by sciencephd.
I told u that in the strictest confidence.   Bolshevik conspiritors everywhere !
No no no!  Formite is what you get when two-mite meets two-mite.

I'm so confused.  I thought it was a fermented yeast spread made from pine sap.
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