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« on: December 02, 2008, 04:39:54 PM » |
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For those of us familiar with the English educational system only from Harry Potter, what is a "recognized teaching qualification?" I've seen this on quite a few postings on jobs.ac.uk recently.
Also, is there a "master" post on how to apply for UK jobs on the CHE? "Jobs" is a great site, but seems to be meant for UK citizens (which, of course, is understandable; it's a UK site, after all).
Do I just fill out the application with all requested materials, like a US institution, or is there much more, since I'm not a UK or EU citizen?
Thanks.
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snape
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 05:02:28 PM » |
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Is this for a job in an education department? In that case it will be the Postgraduate Certificate in Education or equivalent.
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jonesey
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 05:24:33 PM » |
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It's teaching English at the GCSE level, so that probably accounts for the qualification.
How does an American get such a thing?
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snape
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 05:34:54 PM » |
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That makes sense. If you already have a Batchelor's degree in English it is one year full time course. There is a qualification call the GTP (Graduate Training Programme?) which qualified techers from outside the UK can take. The best place to ask is the on the Times Educational Supplement website forum. www.tes.co.uk |
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snape
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2008, 05:37:24 PM » |
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GCSE students are generally 14-16 years old by the way. To be frank, I think that chances of getting such a job without a recognised teaching qualification are nil.
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jonesey
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2008, 05:48:42 PM » |
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GCSE students are generally 14-16 years old by the way. To be frank, I think that chances of getting such a job without a recognised teaching qualification are nil.
Right. Okay, then. It was for Croyden, which, evidently, teaches a wide variety of students. Thanks! |
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2008, 06:37:07 PM » |
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I didn't know they put secondary teaching jobs on jobs.ac.uk; was this in a Further Education college (e.g. Croydon College if such a thing exists)? If that's the case, lots of the students will be over 16 but failed GCSE the first time (or slacked off so much they didn't take it).
The site is not specifically for UK citizens as far as I know - but to teach at pre-18 level you'll need a school teaching qualification like that mentioned.
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jonesey
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2008, 07:09:17 PM » |
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It's at Croyden 6th Form College, which should have told me all I needed to know, shouldn't it? : ) Croyden Job Posting |
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2008, 07:20:51 PM » |
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Jonesy - a Sixth Form College usually teaches 16 - 18 year olds. Some will be studying A-levels (the university qualifying exams: in the UK students specialise from age 16) and will have chosen to do their final two years of high school in a more college-like environment or may come from areas where there are no sixth forms in the schools. Other students may have failed GCSEs first time around and need to retake them. There may be some more mature students but mostly you will be teaching the age that I still think of as 'kids'. If they are taking A-levels (A2 in modern parlance, but everyone seems to still talk of them as A-levels) some students will be intelligent and highly motivated - they may wish to study English at university and A-level English will be a necessary qualification. And then there will be the rest...... Whereas FE colleges don't always require a teaching qualification from the outset (see http://www.lluk.org/documents/lluk_few_summary_sheet_oct07.pdf) I think a sixth form college would stress the need for the qualification |
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snape
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2008, 06:00:30 AM » |
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Just to make it more complicated sixth form colleges have different regulations from further education colleges (even though they take student studying for the same exams). Many sixth forms are integrated into regular high schools.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2008, 03:18:10 PM » |
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Just to make it more complicated sixth form colleges have different regulations from further education colleges (even though they take student studying for the same exams). Many sixth forms are integrated into regular high schools.
This is true. Jonesey, make no mistake: this is a job teaching high school. If that's what you want, cool, but just so you know. Further education colleges are a bit like community colleges. The PGCE is a one-year, fairly intensive course to qualify to teach in high schools; in some subjects and regions it is quite competitive to get a spot. You will not necessarily need it to teach at international high schools in the UK, although they tend to recruit in the US and not through Jobs.ac.uk... Interestingly, there is now a certificate for university teaching, the PGCHET (pigs***) but I don't know how much it is catching on. I think people normally do it once in post, not as a qualification to get a job. |
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2008, 05:10:42 PM » |
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Just to add to the gloom and doom, I think that now only secondary maths and science teachers are treated as shortage professions, so it might now be legally impossible for a 6th form college to sponsor you for a work permit as a non-EU citizen unless they could prove that there was no-one in the EU capable of doing that job. Assuming you've a PhD, I think you'd qualify to enter the UK under the highly-skilled migrant programme without a sponsor but I'm not sure how that quickly that paperwork can be done.
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