galactic_hedgehog
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« Reply #1890 on: October 25, 2009, 09:26:42 AM » |
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See, this is why I say "The sky at noon on a sunny day is blue." My ex-wife would have argued endlessly with me if she'd been in a p*ssy mood and I'd said that the sky was blue. I still remember how mad she got when I, apropos of a different conversation that involved tides, mentioned something about how they were due to the gravitational pull of the moon and sun. She claimed that she was sure it was continental drift, or something.
WTF? I wish I thought you were kidding. No. I think I inadvertently set her off by saying something. She said she could tell by the sound that the tide was coming in, and I said that I was surprised because the sun and moon were both low near the horizon, and I'd thought that would mean really low tide. She took this as skepticism, and thought I was correcting her, and went ballistic. Ah, but the American geologist Frank Taylor argued (in 1908) that it was lunar gravity (during the Cretaceous) that caused the continents to move apart, so perhaps you were both right. I'm teaching about ocean tides this week. Should I mention this as a historical point of interest? Probably 'cause just more confusion. You could mention that Galileo thought the ocean tides were proof of heliocentrism, and not, like that crackpot Kepler, caused by lunar gravity. |
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« Reply #1891 on: October 25, 2009, 09:44:11 AM » |
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See, this is why I say "The sky at noon on a sunny day is blue." My ex-wife would have argued endlessly with me if she'd been in a p*ssy mood and I'd said that the sky was blue. I still remember how mad she got when I, apropos of a different conversation that involved tides, mentioned something about how they were due to the gravitational pull of the moon and sun. She claimed that she was sure it was continental drift, or something.
WTF? I wish I thought you were kidding. No. I think I inadvertently set her off by saying something. She said she could tell by the sound that the tide was coming in, and I said that I was surprised because the sun and moon were both low near the horizon, and I'd thought that would mean really low tide. She took this as skepticism, and thought I was correcting her, and went ballistic. Ah, but the American geologist Frank Taylor argued (in 1908) that it was lunar gravity (during the Cretaceous) that caused the continents to move apart, so perhaps you were both right. I'm teaching about ocean tides this week. Should I mention this as a historical point of interest? Probably 'cause just more confusion. You could mention that Galileo thought the ocean tides were proof of heliocentrism, and not, like that crackpot Kepler, caused by lunar gravity. I'm am not going down that Galileo path again. Some of the students are still recovering from the notion that air resistance is not the reason that a=F/M=constant on earth. |
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galactic_hedgehog
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« Reply #1892 on: October 25, 2009, 09:50:50 AM » |
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See, this is why I say "The sky at noon on a sunny day is blue." My ex-wife would have argued endlessly with me if she'd been in a p*ssy mood and I'd said that the sky was blue. I still remember how mad she got when I, apropos of a different conversation that involved tides, mentioned something about how they were due to the gravitational pull of the moon and sun. She claimed that she was sure it was continental drift, or something.
WTF? I wish I thought you were kidding. No. I think I inadvertently set her off by saying something. She said she could tell by the sound that the tide was coming in, and I said that I was surprised because the sun and moon were both low near the horizon, and I'd thought that would mean really low tide. She took this as skepticism, and thought I was correcting her, and went ballistic. Ah, but the American geologist Frank Taylor argued (in 1908) that it was lunar gravity (during the Cretaceous) that caused the continents to move apart, so perhaps you were both right. I'm teaching about ocean tides this week. Should I mention this as a historical point of interest? Probably 'cause just more confusion. You could mention that Galileo thought the ocean tides were proof of heliocentrism, and not, like that crackpot Kepler, caused by lunar gravity. I'm am not going down that Galileo path again. Some of the students are still recovering from the notion that air resistance is not the reason that a=F/M=constant on earth. He was a big trouble-maker. |
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« Reply #1893 on: October 25, 2009, 10:25:50 AM » |
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See, this is why I say "The sky at noon on a sunny day is blue." My ex-wife would have argued endlessly with me if she'd been in a p*ssy mood and I'd said that the sky was blue. I still remember how mad she got when I, apropos of a different conversation that involved tides, mentioned something about how they were due to the gravitational pull of the moon and sun. She claimed that she was sure it was continental drift, or something.
WTF? I wish I thought you were kidding. No. I think I inadvertently set her off by saying something. She said she could tell by the sound that the tide was coming in, and I said that I was surprised because the sun and moon were both low near the horizon, and I'd thought that would mean really low tide. She took this as skepticism, and thought I was correcting her, and went ballistic. Ah, but the American geologist Frank Taylor argued (in 1908) that it was lunar gravity (during the Cretaceous) that caused the continents to move apart, so perhaps you were both right. I'm teaching about ocean tides this week. Should I mention this as a historical point of interest? Probably 'cause just more confusion. You could mention that Galileo thought the ocean tides were proof of heliocentrism, and not, like that crackpot Kepler, caused by lunar gravity. I'm am not going down that Galileo path again. Some of the students are still recovering from the notion that air resistance is not the reason that a=F/M=constant on earth. He was a big trouble-maker. And his trouble-making legacy lives on. |
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geonerd
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« Reply #1894 on: October 25, 2009, 11:03:15 AM » |
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And his trouble-making legacy lives on.
So does his finger, in a glass case at the Institute and Museum of Science and History in Florence.I'm really curious which finger it is. |
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How many of your grandmothers still are living, and how is their health?
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« Reply #1895 on: October 25, 2009, 11:10:11 AM » |
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So many options. Must...resist.... |
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« Reply #1896 on: October 25, 2009, 11:17:05 AM » |
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So many options. Must...resist.... I like the idea of Galileo flipping off the world for all eternity. |
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How many of your grandmothers still are living, and how is their health?
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« Reply #1897 on: October 25, 2009, 11:19:05 AM » |
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So many options. Must...resist.... I like the idea of Galileo flipping off the world for all eternity. C'mon. The church admitted he was right after only a mere 400 years. How long can a person hold a grudge? |
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« Reply #1898 on: October 25, 2009, 12:56:53 PM » |
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Did anyone ever see this? The best part is when he finds out about his belated absolution. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCt3ClLdnms |
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Because, you know, that stuff on the syllabus is like, in writing, and there are so many ways you can, like, read that, but when the guys who sit by you in class, like, you know, must know what's really going on, right? -- AmLitHist, channelling student
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« Reply #1899 on: October 25, 2009, 04:15:45 PM » |
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I kind of appreciate the cruel irony in that it was the pope who was one of Galileo's biggest fans who eventually had him convicted.
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« Reply #1900 on: October 25, 2009, 09:08:32 PM » |
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I kind of appreciate the cruel irony in that it was the pope who was one of Galileo's biggest fans who eventually had him convicted.
Well, he thought Galileo had made a fool of him, putting his words into the mouth of a character named "Simplicio". Hurt feelings cause all sorts of problems. |
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Because, you know, that stuff on the syllabus is like, in writing, and there are so many ways you can, like, read that, but when the guys who sit by you in class, like, you know, must know what's really going on, right? -- AmLitHist, channelling student
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galactic_hedgehog
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« Reply #1901 on: October 26, 2009, 12:33:27 AM » |
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I have a photo of it somewhere, from a visit to the museum. Galileo was brilliant, but he was also a pompous ass. I've always been more of a Kepler fan. |
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« Reply #1902 on: October 26, 2009, 06:18:54 AM » |
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Galileo was brilliant, but he was also a pompous ass. I've always been more of a Kepler fan.
I heard recently that Kepler might have poisoned Tycho Brahe to get his hands on the data that allowed him to come up with his three laws. How can students think science is boring??? :-) Astrofraa |
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« Reply #1903 on: October 26, 2009, 09:07:07 AM » |
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Is that in their digital collection? (groan, to save you the bother) |
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At the end of the day, sometimes you just have to masturbate in the bathroom.
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« Reply #1904 on: October 26, 2009, 09:17:18 AM » |
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So many options. Must...resist.... I like the idea of Galileo flipping off the world for all eternity. It didn't take long to find this picture of the digit. And yes, it's the middle finger of his right hand. |
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Unfortunately, I think conjugate gives good advice.
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