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chewbacca
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« on: October 21, 2008, 01:33:14 PM »

My spouse is a tenured faculty member at the institution where I am finishing up my PhD. We live in a cow-town; there are no other universities in the area. My spouse has mentioned that she would like to stay where we are; our first child will be here soon, and it is a good place to raise a child. My specialty is not particularly in demand, and my department is strapped financially.

My spouse, ever the optimist, thinks that we can somehow get the university at which I am completing my graduate work to hire me as a spousal hire. Should my spouse mention this to her departmental chair (different department than mine)? And when should she do this? (I'm more than a year away from finishing my degree.) Or should I mention this to my dissertation director? How do we go about bringing this up? I'm just looking for direction/advice in how to start pursuing this option -- if it is an option at all!

Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2008, 01:38:11 PM »

First of all, look in the university handbook and see if they have a policy against "inbreeding," which means hiring their own graduates.

If they do (most schools do), you're sunk, unless you can work as a non-tenure-track instructor.

You also need to stress, if this is going to work, what skills and achievements you can bring to the university. Not your personal life.

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The Fiona or perhaps La Fiona
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2008, 01:48:56 PM »

First of all, look in the university handbook and see if they have a policy against "inbreeding," which means hiring their own graduates.

I didn't know that was something that goes in the faculty handbook.  It seems like more of an unwritten rule -- one which could be faced with severe legal (discrimination) consequences if it was placed in writing.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 02:05:17 PM »

First of all, look in the university handbook and see if they have a policy against "inbreeding," which means hiring their own graduates.

I didn't know that was something that goes in the faculty handbook.  It seems like more of an unwritten rule -- one which could be faced with severe legal (discrimination) consequences if it was placed in writing.


Not true. It's routine at many universities. It doesn't discriminate according to the official legal categories, such as race or sex or creed. .

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 02:12:14 PM »


The elite institutions that I've been associated with cultivate inbreeding as though it were a virtue.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 02:22:13 PM »


The elite institutions that I've been associated with cultivate inbreeding as though it were a virtue.

They have not (yet) learned the lessons of European royal families, which are, in a way, their model.
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 02:27:44 PM »

My spouse, ever the optimist, thinks that we can somehow get the university at which I am completing my graduate work to hire me as a spousal hire. Should my spouse mention this to her departmental chair (different department than mine)? And when should she do this?

First, let me say that I am shocked that no one had grabbed the "Chewbacca" moniker until now.

Universities in remote places have spousal hiring policies for recruitment and retention purposes.  If your spouse continues to be a valued member of the Faculty and is willing to credibly state that she will have to leave if you can't find employment, then the spousal hire policies should apply to you.  In theory, your university should be as least as interested in offering a spousal hire to keep someone who has proven herself as to hire a promising candidate fresh out of graduate school.

But that's just the theory.  Not all administrators may see it that way.  Even if central administration would be whipping out their matching funds in a hearbeat if you both were new hires, the fact that your spouse is a bird in hand and you're an alum-to-be may make them hesitate.  And if no one believes that she would actually apply elsewhere if you don't find work, it will be a non-starter.  Ditto if your department would never hire one of its own even at a bargain price.

Assuming the threat of moving on is a credible one, then I have to believe it's better to say something sooner rather than later, to allow as much time as possible for good things to happen.  The proper way to start the conversation would be for your spouse to bring it up to her Chair as an issue that affects her long-term plans.

The back-up plan: If no one seems interested in finding a spousal placement for you, either you or your spouse may need an offer from elsewhere to gain leverage.

Warning:  This is just based on my impressions of how things have worked with spousal hires I've seen on steering committees.  From my ass to your ear ....
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2008, 08:12:16 AM »

I agree with svenc.  You two are going to have to go on the market together in order to gain leverage.   What your spouse should mention to her chair is that you and her will be going on the job market, but you'd like to stay if that is possible.

The folks at your university have seen this before (although the tenured faculty member is usually male and went looking for a nubile young wife in the grad departments).  They know that the tenured faculty member never leaves anyway, so they have no real incentive to make accommodations for the younger spouse. 

There are a lot of other fantastic cow towns out there.
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