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« Reply #315 on: July 22, 2009, 07:43:52 PM »

Yay for the Weapon family! I'm pouring you both a glass of wine as soon as I get over to Dinner Tonight!
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« Reply #316 on: July 22, 2009, 10:03:27 PM »

The state tax report came out last weeks

guess we can kiss that retiring track and the accredidation goodbye.

And say hello furloughs.

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« Reply #317 on: July 23, 2009, 12:37:34 AM »

The state tax report came out last weeks

guess we can kiss that retiring track and the accredidation goodbye.

And say hello furloughs.


Wow; finances are so bad the institution is going to forgo accreditation?  How does that happen?  Or is this a specialized discipline-specific accreditation?

Anyway, my sympathies.  I hope my new institution doesn't suffer a big budget cut just as I get there.  A loss of salary would really hurt, considering that I'm already dropping to a lower salary level just by starting at Year 1.
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« Reply #318 on: July 23, 2009, 05:04:55 AM »

Yay for the Weapon family! I'm pouring you both a glass of wine as soon as I get over to Dinner Tonight!

Haha!  I think you've already started on the wine.  This is Hiring Freeze, not Jobseekers.  (But we love you anyway, PrePhD).

On topic, I am mildly curious to know if the schools that told me last fall that they would readvertise their cancelled searches this year, actually will.  I am guessing no.  Are others predicting more or fewer jobs for this autumn? 
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« Reply #319 on: July 23, 2009, 08:55:49 AM »

Are others predicting more or fewer jobs for this autumn? 

Fewer, but with less uncertainty (e.g., freezes, positions cancelled, "contingent on funding").

Take that to the bank. My prediction is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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« Reply #320 on: July 23, 2009, 09:03:08 AM »

Are others predicting more or fewer jobs for this autumn? 

Fewer, but with less uncertainty (e.g., freezes, positions cancelled, "contingent on funding").

Take that to the bank. My prediction is worth exactly what you paid for it.

I'm with madhatter.  I'll take fewer jobs but more certainty over mid-year layoffs and positions de-funded after interviews have already occurred any day.  I also think that the time between funding being approved and hires being made will be dramatically reduced.  Be ready to see lots of invitations for interviews NEXT WEEK. 

I think I need another cup of coffee. 
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« Reply #321 on: July 23, 2009, 09:16:35 AM »

Are others predicting more or fewer jobs for this autumn? 

Fewer, but with less uncertainty (e.g., freezes, positions cancelled, "contingent on funding").

Take that to the bank. My prediction is worth exactly what you paid for it.

This sounds right to me too.
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« Reply #322 on: July 23, 2009, 09:47:07 AM »

Yes, searches won't be pulled midyear. They just won't be posted in the first place.

Though (I hesitate even to say this) we have heard that we may get to search for one person. Maybe. If we do, I think we have to swear in blood not to tell anyone else on campus that we are getting a luscious lollipop when everyone else is getting a large helping of sh!t on a stick.
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« Reply #323 on: July 23, 2009, 11:40:07 AM »

The state tax report came out last weeks

guess we can kiss that retiring track and the accredidation goodbye.

And say hello furloughs.


Wow; finances are so bad the institution is going to forgo accreditation?  How does that happen?  Or is this a specialized discipline-specific accreditation?

Anyway, my sympathies.  I hope my new institution doesn't suffer a big budget cut just as I get there.  A loss of salary would really hurt, considering that I'm already dropping to a lower salary level just by starting at Year 1.

Accredidation requires at minimum 4 full time tenure track faculty in our program - we just went through the preview process and this coming year is the final hoop.  But we have one faculty who is retiring, after putting it off for years, and if we don't get to replace her (which at this point seems likely) we can't get accredidation.  yes, I think it is stupid.
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« Reply #324 on: July 23, 2009, 12:35:29 PM »

Good Goddess, Rowan, that sucks.
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« Reply #325 on: July 23, 2009, 05:17:43 PM »

Good Goddess, Rowan, that sucks.
Yeah, that is brutal. Sometimes, I am glad we don't have a professional accreditation process on my field...
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« Reply #326 on: July 25, 2009, 01:10:57 PM »

Are others predicting more or fewer jobs for this autumn? 

Fewer, but with less uncertainty (e.g., freezes, positions cancelled, "contingent on funding").

Take that to the bank. My prediction is worth exactly what you paid for it.

I'm with madhatter.  I'll take fewer jobs but more certainty over mid-year layoffs and positions de-funded after interviews have already occurred any day.  I also think that the time between funding being approved and hires being made will be dramatically reduced.  Be ready to see lots of invitations for interviews NEXT WEEK. 

What do you mean "be ready"?  The time has arrived.  I have been contacted by more than one committee in the past two weeks that is still trying to fill slots for the semester that starts 15 August.  For my phone interviews this week, I gave repeated assurances to worried department chairs that I can do on-site interviews given two days' notice (travel time eats up a whole day to get anywhere from here) and be ready to start at a job on the other side of the country, also with two days' notice. 
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« Reply #327 on: July 25, 2009, 06:04:56 PM »

Are others predicting more or fewer jobs for this autumn? 

Fewer, but with less uncertainty (e.g., freezes, positions cancelled, "contingent on funding").

Take that to the bank. My prediction is worth exactly what you paid for it.

I'm with madhatter.  I'll take fewer jobs but more certainty over mid-year layoffs and positions de-funded after interviews have already occurred any day.  I also think that the time between funding being approved and hires being made will be dramatically reduced.  Be ready to see lots of invitations for interviews NEXT WEEK. 

What do you mean "be ready"?  The time has arrived.  I have been contacted by more than one committee in the past two weeks that is still trying to fill slots for the semester that starts 15 August.  For my phone interviews this week, I gave repeated assurances to worried department chairs that I can do on-site interviews given two days' notice (travel time eats up a whole day to get anywhere from here) and be ready to start at a job on the other side of the country, also with two days' notice. 

After the committee interviews you and shows you out, don't offer to stay in the reception area and wait for their response. Even if you have nowhere else to be for the next month.
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« Reply #328 on: July 25, 2009, 07:15:17 PM »

Are others predicting more or fewer jobs for this autumn? 

Fewer, but with less uncertainty (e.g., freezes, positions cancelled, "contingent on funding").

Take that to the bank. My prediction is worth exactly what you paid for it.

I'm with madhatter.  I'll take fewer jobs but more certainty over mid-year layoffs and positions de-funded after interviews have already occurred any day.  I also think that the time between funding being approved and hires being made will be dramatically reduced.  Be ready to see lots of invitations for interviews NEXT WEEK. 

What do you mean "be ready"?  The time has arrived.  I have been contacted by more than one committee in the past two weeks that is still trying to fill slots for the semester that starts 15 August.  For my phone interviews this week, I gave repeated assurances to worried department chairs that I can do on-site interviews given two days' notice (travel time eats up a whole day to get anywhere from here) and be ready to start at a job on the other side of the country, also with two days' notice. 

After the committee interviews you and shows you out, don't offer to stay in the reception area and wait for their response. Even if you have nowhere else to be for the next month.

Are you saying that I need to appear less desperate?  These people called me, all but begging for a last minute interview.  I think we're equally desperate, but point taken.
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« Reply #329 on: July 25, 2009, 10:58:55 PM »

Are you saying that I need to appear less desperate?  These people called me, all but begging for a last minute interview.  I think we're equally desperate, but point taken.

I assumed that his point was that just because they're in a hurry doesn't mean that they'll make a decision quickly.  But congratulations on the interviews.  I wish you the best of luck.
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