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« on: August 02, 2008, 11:05:22 AM » |
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How is the hiring outlook for the coming year from ya'lls perpective? We have a state-wide hiring freeze in all areas of academia this year. It feels really bleak to many of us as we could use more people in many departments as enrollment increases.
The Smirk
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studentsmakemesleepy
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2008, 01:11:33 PM » |
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Well,
In my area -- I've noticed two cherry jobs pop up already before the list posts *early* this September. As there are usually a total of -mebbe- 20 jobs in my area a year... this gives me hope for more possibilities. And, having said that, our state has a hiring freeze on as well. Oy.
If I may be so bold, Smirk -- what state are you frozen in? (Hopefully we're in the same state, and the damage is not as bad... Yah, I know, horrid, unlikely optimism.)
-SMMS
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2008, 03:38:25 PM » |
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SMMS --
I am in Florida where everyone in our university seems to want to leave! Budget cuts left and right, no raises for the past 2 years and counting...kinda sad, really. How about you?
Smirky
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2008, 06:34:21 PM » |
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I think it's going to be a bad year everywhere. Sorry to report grim news. We don't have a hiring freeze, and probably won't, but we're looking at probable mid-year budget cuts.
For those on the market, don't despair--at least not totally. When the economy is down, enrollment in regional state-supported universities and community colleges sometimes goes up. In the absence of tenure-eligible lines, schools will try to staff those courses with adjuncts, but they will still need to hire temporary, full-time faculty. Mr prediction (worth every penny you've paid for it) is that there will be jobs, just not permanent ones.
Good luck to all.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2008, 08:31:07 AM » |
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Well, if anyone is interested in Canada, it looks like we're going to hire a whole lot of people this year--should be a very positive year for job seekers here.
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studentsmakemesleepy
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2008, 08:49:46 AM » |
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SMMS --
I am in Florida where everyone in our university seems to want to leave! Budget cuts left and right, no raises for the past 2 years and counting...kinda sad, really. How about you?
Smirky
Ahh, If not brethren, i figured we both might be Southern by exposure: Arkansas. I believe we are, ironically enough, in a temp. freeze depending on which of three fiscal policies towards education our Gov. decided to enact (bad, good or awesome! ... funny thing is, I think the plans are kept in manilla envelopes _actually_ labeled as such). Currently, the freeze holds us at "good, but not buying"... until he determines which plan to undertake. This doesn't really affect my hunt this year as, given the fact that all my GI Joe's melt the minute they hit the outside lately, we're looking North. Granted, that means everyone else will look North as well. Bugger. --SMMS |
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2008, 11:05:19 AM » |
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As my name would indicate, I am no longer in the south.
We also have a state-wide hiring freeze.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2008, 11:26:43 AM » |
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Much to my surprise, my department chair at my old department got permission to run TT searches for all three departing faculty. And we have an institutional budget crisis in addition to a looming state shortfall.
It helps that college enrollments historically increase during recessions, as folks who lost their jobs look into retraining and career changes. And someone has to teach those courses.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2008, 03:18:33 PM » |
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Tis sage logic and perspective, Larry.
Hopefully, it pans out.
That, or those $1000 rebates from big oil. I'll take one of those too (it MIGHT pay for MLA this year *laughs*).
--Can you write-off a business expense paid for with a government rebate check? :)
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2008, 08:12:48 PM » |
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Would it be helpful if forumites posted as to which states are currently under a hiring freeze? So far we have Arkansas and Florida. Posting as much only links you to a state...Maybe someone could design a poll? (I love those radio buttons!)
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2008, 03:00:02 AM » |
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I have heard that the whole University of California system is under a hiring freeze (at least in my social science field). Can anyone confirm? This is a depressing thought, as I'm finally going on the market with some strong publications!
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2008, 08:02:16 AM » |
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Love the idea of radio buttons - but I am not sure of how to design such a thing...! How can Cali be under a freeze when MLA is there this year? Sigh...!
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2008, 08:34:39 AM » |
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We're frozen. Then again, why should a state institution in the south have someone who does African American lit/history/politics anyway?
That said, schools with budgets that are based on endowment and enrollment rather than pinhead legislators are in a different situation. I worked at two private universities, and they both budgeted based on endowment income over the previous five years not that particular year. That way, one down year would not require huge changes.
Thus you have the plum jobs from private schools with billion and multi-billion dollar endowments. (We may be in the same field and the same region, students. And we're looking north, too...)
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2008, 08:42:00 AM » |
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Well, if anyone is interested in Canada, it looks like we're going to hire a whole lot of people this year--should be a very positive year for job seekers here.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2008, 09:02:12 AM » |
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I have heard that the whole University of California system is under a hiring freeze (at least in my social science field). Can anyone confirm? This is a depressing thought, as I'm finally going on the market with some strong publications!
Yah, that's a pretty-well established wikiality I believe (and I label it as such as two of my friends at two different California schools confirm to me that they are under a 'quiet' hiring freeze). This is, California always seems to be in such a delicate quagmire from year to year, I don't know if one could or should put too much stock into any so-called freezes or potential hires. And before anyone grabs their broom and cries shenanigans... I am not piddling on the California professoriate... by any means. I would simply concur with thoughts that indicate that California legislation is bizarre, labyrinthine and seemingly endless as pertains to their education system. The interviews with their search committees are fun too (as they all seem to be constantly looking for that one, solitary 'medievalist/ sociologist, who happens to do html and technocrat theory while still being fluent in hamdinger literature, the work of Mystery Science Theatre 3000 and the extended corpus of Gore Vidal's toilet crossword puzzles (1954-1994)'... all the while ignoring the relevancy of his sudoku phase (1994-present). *sigh* I just want to teach penguins to do their own voice-over commentary in documentary films. |
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