civilwarrior
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« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2008, 08:05:52 AM » |
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First, The writer is a Pot Head ABD, come back when you have a PhD and let us know if this worked.
Second, given the quality and clarity of most academic articles, I had always assumed they were written by people on drugs.
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litcrittr82
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« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2008, 08:24:40 AM » |
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OMG, this article is such a humanities grad student cliche! (And I say this as a humanities graduate student). The intellectual justification of one's personal habits/coping tools and denigration of those of others, the obligatory reference to Foucault's personal life, followed by the dissing of the younger generation, as if liking raves for the lights and beats is some kind of philistine crime instead of, say, the reason why about 90% of people who ever attended a rave, even in the early '90s, liked them (and, yeah, I, too, suddenly wondered if this was archived from 1997), the obligatory condescending reference to "jocks and sorority girls" (ie. his students), followed by the political-ethical anxieties (I donate to NORML! It's just like carbon offsets! Not like those selfish coke-users!) and the unverified and illogical class analysis ("A significant portion of the people who enter Ph.D. programs in literature seem to come from wealthy backgrounds. So it makes sense that over time, glossy designer drugs would predominate.") and so on. But I liked the first sentence and the part about Nancy Reagan!
Well put. By all means, smoke, drink, snort--whatever works for you; but don't be such a cliche! Then the rest of us have to wrestle with that stereotype. |
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apablo
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« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2008, 11:45:50 AM » |
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First, The writer is a Pot Head ABD, come back when you have a PhD and let us know if this worked.
Second, given the quality and clarity of most academic articles, I had always assumed they were written by people on drugs.
It worked great for me, thanks. And clarity of prose, argument, and presentation is one of the things editors have consistently complimented me on. The lack of such qualities in much academic writing drives me crazy too. Apablo, (Pothead) PhD, Assistant Professor. I will say, though, that I kind of understand how some here simply can't believe that those who get high find that it can enhance the quality of their thinking and writing. For my part, I can't grasp how anyone can be productive while drunk. After two drinks I'm completely useless when it comes to reading, writing, or thinking conceptually. But there's a long tradition of writers, academics, and others who have worked this way with great results. Just because it would never work for me, though, doesn't mean that I scorn those for whom it does work, or categorically refuse to believe that it could work for anyone. Don't waste time and energy judging. Just do. |
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macaroon
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« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2008, 12:38:48 PM » |
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OMG, this article is such a humanities grad student cliche! (And I say this as a humanities graduate student). The intellectual justification of one's personal habits/coping tools and denigration of those of others... Yeah, crowie, what is with that? Marijuana is a popular drug for good reason. It's fun and nearly everyone likes it, like swimming, chocolate, puppies, and stargazing. Why must there be an intellectual justification for everything? |
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crowie
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« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2008, 01:08:21 PM » |
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OMG, this article is such a humanities grad student cliche! (And I say this as a humanities graduate student). The intellectual justification of one's personal habits/coping tools and denigration of those of others... Yeah, crowie, what is with that? Marijuana is a popular drug for good reason. It's fun and nearly everyone likes it, like swimming, chocolate, puppies, and stargazing. Why must there be an intellectual justification for everything? Insecurity. |
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macaroon
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« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2008, 01:20:17 PM » |
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OMG, this article is such a humanities grad student cliche! (And I say this as a humanities graduate student). The intellectual justification of one's personal habits/coping tools and denigration of those of others... Yeah, crowie, what is with that? Marijuana is a popular drug for good reason. It's fun and nearly everyone likes it, like swimming, chocolate, puppies, and stargazing. Why must there be an intellectual justification for everything? Insecurity. Ooooh. Thanks! |
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king_ghidorah
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« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2008, 01:56:46 PM » |
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I do dig the thought process here - it is so retro 1960's-ish. It is about time for a return to hippy mentality in academia, drive the neo-cons to even deeper wells of distraction.
Personally, I could never get pot to work for me, but it is groovy, man, just groovy.
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Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, where the heck is the ceiling??
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crowie
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« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2008, 02:32:10 PM » |
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OMG, this article is such a humanities grad student cliche! (And I say this as a humanities graduate student). The intellectual justification of one's personal habits/coping tools and denigration of those of others... Yeah, crowie, what is with that? Marijuana is a popular drug for good reason. It's fun and nearly everyone likes it, like swimming, chocolate, puppies, and stargazing. Why must there be an intellectual justification for everything? Insecurity. Ooooh. Thanks! :) I have a longer version of it but I'm afraid it would turn into a rant. Oh, what the hell. Basically, I think folks like Quincey often go into the Ph.D. in Literature because, for various reasons, they think it will be a way to make some kind of progressive, ethical intervention into global cultural politics. Once they start writing their dissertation they realize that it may not, in fact, turn out to be the Gender Trouble or Orientalism of their generation. The moral insecurity that results from this (if my dissertation isn't going to change the world does that make me just another self-indulgent wanker? Should I be working for a human rights NGO in Latin America instead?) means that the ethical ramifications of even matters of hedonic taste (eg. whether you prefer booze, cocaine or pot) take on a disproportionate significance. Along with this, intellectual achievement is, of course, the currency of academia. Thus, everything must be justified with overarching assertions about the ethical and intellectual superiority of one's own preference. |
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larryc
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« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2008, 02:39:15 PM » |
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Nice analysis, Crowie.
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crowie
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« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2008, 02:48:23 PM » |
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Nice analysis, Crowie.
*blush* And, in a spirit of full disclosure, I'll cop to starting my own Ph.D. in Literature with similar stars in my eyes, but over the years I've come to terms with what I am and am not contributing to the world, and most of the time hoping not to be too self-aggrandizing or defensive about it. |
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baka_janai
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« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2008, 08:10:44 PM » |
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I assume that everyone posting here is just fine with their own children smoking pot.
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mouseman
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« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2008, 09:15:20 PM » |
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I assume that everyone posting here is just fine with their own children smoking pot.
When they're college age, and responsible enough not to drive or do anything that needs coordination while under the influence, yes, I'm OK with my kids smoking pot. My father smoked, and gave me the same education. Are you fine with your children drinking alcohol or smoking tobacco? |
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In the midst of the word he was trying to say,
In the midst of his laughter and glee,
He had softly and suddenly vanished away -- -
For the Snark was a Boojum, you see.
Lewis Carroll
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« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2008, 09:34:35 PM » |
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I'd rather have my kids be pot smokers than be Republicans.
The Fiona, who doesn't have kids, but whose cats have strong opinions
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The Fiona or perhaps La Fiona
Professor of Thread Killing, Fiork University
The Right Reverend Fiona, PhD, Bishop of the Fora
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baka_janai
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« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2008, 10:20:23 PM » |
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Are you fine with your children drinking alcohol or smoking tobacco?
No. |
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