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[octoprof]

For you, untenured, my dear: The Turkish Online Journal of Distance Education

[untenured]

For you, untenured, my dear: The Turkish Online Journal of Distance Education

Aww, thanks!

What a name.

Untenured

[gourmand601]

Just sharing.

This is the link to Impact Education, a publication of The Richard W. Riley College of Education and Leadership at Walden University. It is very insightful for those of you who are serious about education and various aspects of higher education.

http://impacteducation.waldenu.edu/

Here is a link that provides insight about a few scholar-practitioners in the Ph.D. in Community College Leadership program.... Slipdisco and others who may be interested should contact these individuals about the program.

http://impacteducation.waldenu.edu/25067_25117.htm

Enjoy!

[octoprof]

Just sharing.

This is the link to Impact Education, a publication of The Richard W. Riley College of Education and Leadership at Walden University. It is very insightful for those of you who are serious about education and various aspects of higher education.

http://impacteducation.waldenu.edu/

Here is a link that provides insight about a few scholar-practitioners in the Ph.D. in Community College Leadership program.... Slipdisco and others who may be interested should contact these individuals about the program. 

http://impacteducation.waldenu.edu/25067_25117.htm

Enjoy!

Just sharing.

This is the link to the User Agreement for this forum, a publication of the Chronicle of Higher Education. It is very insightful for those of you who are serious about forum usage and abuse relative to higher education.

http://chronicle.com/help/useragreement.htm

This is of particular interest for any scholar-practitioners who might want to use the site in connection with any commercial enterprises, such as advertising for a for-profit institution of higher learning.  truescholar601 and others who may be interested should contact the moderators about these rules.

Enjoy!

[malcha]

I want to know whether an impacted education is treatable through medication, or if the condition requires surgery.

[nomad]

My experience...

I am not discussing Walden or Capella. I am addressing private for profits in general. Before I got my masters degree I worked as a technical trainer/instructor. I worked for an organization which sent me to very very large and well known companies and I trained the work force. I enjoyed my job. I decided to increase my skills so that I could increase the numbers and types of courses I taught. I looked at many many options nearby. I am in a very large metropolitan area and many choices existed. I attended info sessions and opted to go with a masters in Info Systems from a private for profit which was both online and local. I chose this school because it was the most technical hands on program I could find. I did both online and brick and mortar courses. I received an excellent education and it worked well for my career. I also moved from the private training company to a private for profit undergraduate college and taught there. Life was good.....

I soon realized that I enjoyed the teaching aspects more then the subject matter that I taught. I wanted to learn more about the educational aspects of my career. I wanted to further the field of education. I wanted to learn more about policy and governance.  I wanted to continue and get a PhD in education. I wanted to move into a more research oriented position and move away from being simply an instructor. This is where things went down hill. I unfortunately had a degree from a for profit university.

I thought to myself...Why not Capella? I applied, was accepted instantly and was ready to go. Thank goodness I come from a family of professors. My mother had been a TT prof at a SLAC and she talked me out of it. I started looking nearby. Ed programs were popping up everywhere for some reason.

I made appointments and started to speak to faculty. I went to one nearby university and spoke to a prof. I will never forget the look he gave me when I mentioned my Masters. It went from a warm conversation to a complete stop. He actually walked out of the room. The ridiculous thing was that this was a professor of ed tech! Come on!

This happened at the next school I went to.......Ugh!

Luckily I was accepted to a "real" program and I am very grateful that I did not follow through with Capella. That would have been a disaster. I believe that the education I would have gotten would have been good but the fact that it had a for profit aspect would have tanked any hope for a career.

So I am finished with my first year. I am very happy and I have high hopes. I still cringe when I think that I have to put my masters degree on my CV. Hopefully the PhD from a well known program will override that. Maybe I could just forget to put it on......I actually would love some feedback on this issue.

So I am a PhD student in ed with an emphasis in post secondary ed and guess what I am doing research in....drum roll please....private for profit education. It is a wide open field. Almost no research exists. . So look for my name "Nomad" in the journals one day. Perhaps I can bring some real wisdom about this third sector, some actual numbers and facts, then I can put my masters on my CV....Well maybe not.

[gourmand601]

My experience...

I am not discussing Walden or Capella. I am addressing private for profits in general. Before I got my masters degree I worked as a technical trainer/instructor. I worked for an organization which sent me to very very large and well known companies and I trained the work force. I enjoyed my job. I decided to increase my skills so that I could increase the numbers and types of courses I taught. I looked at many many options nearby. I am in a very large metropolitan area and many choices existed. I attended info sessions and opted to go with a masters in Info Systems from a private for profit which was both online and local. I chose this school because it was the most technical hands on program I could find. I did both online and brick and mortar courses. I received an excellent education and it worked well for my career. I also moved from the private training company to a private for profit undergraduate college and taught there. Life was good.....

I soon realized that I enjoyed the teaching aspects more then the subject matter that I taught. I wanted to learn more about the educational aspects of my career. I wanted to further the field of education. I wanted to learn more about policy and governance.  I wanted to continue and get a PhD in education. I wanted to move into a more research oriented position and move away from being simply an instructor. This is where things went down hill. I unfortunately had a degree from a for profit university.

I thought to myself...Why not Capella? I applied, was accepted instantly and was ready to go. Thank goodness I come from a family of professors. My mother had been a TT prof at a SLAC and she talked me out of it. I started looking nearby. Ed programs were popping up everywhere for some reason.

I made appointments and started to speak to faculty. I went to one nearby university and spoke to a prof. I will never forget the look he gave me when I mentioned my Masters. It went from a warm conversation to a complete stop. He actually walked out of the room. The ridiculous thing was that this was a professor of ed tech! Come on!

This happened at the next school I went to.......Ugh!

Luckily I was accepted to a "real" program and I am very grateful that I did not follow through with Capella. That would have been a disaster. I believe that the education I would have gotten would have been good but the fact that it had a for profit aspect would have tanked any hope for a career.

So I am finished with my first year. I am very happy and I have high hopes. I still cringe when I think that I have to put my masters degree on my CV. Hopefully the PhD from a well known program will override that. Maybe I could just forget to put it on......I actually would love some feedback on this issue.

So I am a PhD student in ed with an emphasis in post secondary ed and guess what I am doing research in....drum roll please....private for profit education. It is a wide open field. Almost no research exists. . So look for my name "Nomad" in the journals one day. Perhaps I can bring some real wisdom about this third sector, some actual numbers and facts, then I can put my masters on my CV....Well maybe not.

I honestly would have never attended an institution that I was "unsure" of or would not meet my professional needs. But since you're ashamed of your master's degree..... just go get another. You can always do a bridge program at the institution where you're working on your doctorate.

[octoprof]

nomad,

That's a very interesting story.  Thanks for sharing!

When you've finished your PhD, what your masters is and where you earned it won't be very important. So, include it.

However, if you want to continue researching for-profit education, then the masters actually gives you some street cred, so to speak, doesn't it?

Good luck!

[daniel_von_flanagan]

In fact, I believe this is Walden's new motto: "If you don't like your degree from us, you can always get another." - DvF

[nomad]

I honestly would have never attended an institution that I was "unsure" of or would not meet my professional needs. But since you're ashamed of your master's degree..... just go get another. You can always do a bridge program at the institution where you're working on your doctorate.

That is just it. It filled my professional needs and I was sure it the right degree. It was the best hands on tech degree I could find. I was a technical trainer/instructor. It was exactly what I needed. The problem was that I couldn't predict the future. It became a problem as my interests grew and changed.

[nomad]

nomad,

That's a very interesting story.  Thanks for sharing!

When you've finished your PhD, what your masters is and where you earned it won't be very important. So, include it.

However, if you want to continue researching for-profit education, then the masters actually gives you some street cred, so to speak, doesn't it?

Good luck!

Thanks

That is a good way to address it.

[gourmand601]

I honestly would have never attended an institution that I was "unsure" of or would not meet my professional needs. But since you're ashamed of your master's degree..... just go get another. You can always do a bridge program at the institution where you're working on your doctorate.

That is just it. It filled my professional needs and I was sure it the right degree. It was the best hands on tech degree I could find. I was a technical trainer/instructor. It was exactly what I needed. The problem was that I couldn't predict the future. It became a problem as my interests grew and changed.

Well there definitely is nothing wrong with having more than one master's degree. I would try to work out a deal with my advisor and provost...etc. and see if i could double dip and work on another master's in the same area. It's quite doable.

Best of luck to you.

[nomad]

Well there definitely is nothing wrong with having more than one master's degree. I would try to work out a deal with my advisor and provost...etc. and see if i could double dip and work on another master's in the same area. It's quite doable.

Best of luck to you.

Yes but at this institution a master's means two more years on top of the PhD. It is through credit hours only. I will also have to do a thesis. I really want to get out and get a job and start making money instead of living like...well...a college student.  I guess going to Capella or Walden online while I worked would defeat the purpose.....

[octoprof]

Well there definitely is nothing wrong with having more than one master's degree. I would try to work out a deal with my advisor and provost...etc. and see if i could double dip and work on another master's in the same area. It's quite doable.

Best of luck to you.

Yes but at this institution a master's means two more years on top of the PhD. It is through credit hours only. I will also have to do a thesis. I really want to get out and get a job and start making money instead of living like...well...a college student.  I guess going to Capella or Walden online while I worked would defeat the purpose.....

I think it's doubtful that you need another masters. You were accepted to a good PhD program. All you have to do is finish it and keep going strong.

[gourmand601]

Slipdisco and others interested in Distance Learning... here is a Ph.D. program in Community College Leadership from Mississippi State University. It may be a good fit for some of you working adults.

http://www.distance.msstate.edu/ccs/