scheherazade
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2008, 04:24:21 PM » |
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Stop nitpicking! I have no interest in being precise, being accurate, or reading for understanding! All this asking for examples and pointing out problems with my arguments is simply not getting us anywhere! All hail Walden! Ignorance is peace! </channeling truescholar>
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2008, 04:53:35 PM » |
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As for Dr. Kendrick at Gateway CC. What you think of her is minimal to the work that she has put into improving Gateway. She has received many plaudits from the local and academic community for her work. She must be doing something right to have a student body of over 11,000 students. I still encourage Slipdisco to contact her regarding her Walden experience.
Okay. Fine. I'd love to hear some of her accomplishments. Do not count the new building as that was a gift from the state and the transfer program to UConn was done by the legislature. |
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2008, 04:55:02 PM » |
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Lookahere, all these nutmeggers coming out on this thread. My, my.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2008, 05:47:54 PM » |
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You can tie floppy ears on a rat, this might make it into a better-looking rat but will not make it into a bunny.
Correspondence school has a long and venerable history, can be good at what it does, and is quite useful for some people (just ask Wee Geordie). The asynchronous aspect of correspondence school has been rendered much easier and effective with the advent of the internet (so much so that many people mistake this form of educational delivery for something new), and is increasingly finding a place even in traditional schools. However, correspondence school is not a drop-in replacement for brick-and-mortar education, and those who want to believe it is are essentially members of some kind of educational cargo cult. - DvF
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The U.S. Education Department is establishing a new national research center to study colleges' ability to successfully educate the country's growing numbers of academically underprepared administrators.
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2008, 07:11:07 PM » |
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As for Dr. Kendrick at Gateway CC. What you think of her is minimal to the work that she has put into improving Gateway. She has received many plaudits from the local and academic community for her work. She must be doing something right to have a student body of over 11,000 students. I still encourage Slipdisco to contact her regarding her Walden experience.
Okay. Fine. I'd love to hear some of her accomplishments. Do not count the new building as that was a gift from the state and the transfer program to UConn was done by the legislature. I suggest you read the history of the school from 1999 or perhaps contact Dr. Kendrick for that. I'm not going to do your work for you. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2008, 07:59:53 PM » |
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Is it true that Walden University has sent more scholars to the Oxford Round Table than any other university?
[Dang it, I used that line on the last Walden U. thread. sorry.]
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2008, 10:23:44 PM » |
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Oh yea... very original Larryc.
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"It all follows the same old rule, the best engineers were technicians
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2008, 11:07:14 PM » |
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Slipdisco and others who may be interested in understanding exactly what WU does and how it works..... here is a link to the Ph.D. residency documentary. www.waldenu.edu/c/about/PhDResidencyDocumentary.htm This is not a recruitment tool but one that lets those who are uneasy about WU know how it works. Also, Slipdisco, I'm not sure how far you are away from Mississippi, but Mississippi State University has an online Ph.D. in Community College Leadership. You will have to come down once a month for face to face though. Walden U also has a Ph.D. in Community College Leadership that may be a good fit for you as well. You will have 20 days of residency there as well. I'm not sure what Capella's policy is regarding their colloquia. Regent University has a Ph.D. program in leadership. There is a residency requirement as well.
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scheherazade
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2008, 12:13:17 AM » |
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This is not a recruitment tool but one that lets those who are uneasy about WU know how it works.
Yes, we call those...recruitment tools. |
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2008, 07:57:06 AM » |
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As for finding "any" WU graduates in a tenure track position at an R1 university..... try Jackson State University: Dr. Wilson is an Assoc. Professor and Divison Head. The provost of Oral Roberts is a Walden alum. Dr. S Robinson is tenured at Penn State- Hazleton. Dr. P. Maresco is a clinical assistant professor of marketing at the John F. Welch College of Business at Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, Conn. This is an AACSB accredited business school. One would argue that there should be more, but please yield to my lower statement.
You've made a big deal about Maresco at Sacred Heart and his Walden Ph.D.. Sacred Heart is not an R1. If you look closer, Dr. Maresco is a clinical assistant professor. Clinicals are generally hired because of their industry or external experience, not their research Ph.D. If you read Sacred Heart's webage on him as well as his resume ( http://www.drpetermaresco.com/resume.htm), you can tell that he was a heavy hitter in marketing before he entered academia. His Walden degree was earned in the late 1990s. I seriously doubt the folks at Sacred Heart said, "wow, this guy has a Walden Ph.D., let's hire him." More likely they said, "wow, this guy has years and years of marketing success in the real world. And he has a Ph.D. too so he can teach graduate classes, let's hire him." I don't see the Walden degree helping him all that much other than punching a ticket to teach graduate courses. If you want to show us that Walden graduates people who can compete in the academic marketplace, you'll have to do better than that. Untenured |
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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2008, 08:03:13 AM » |
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And students have to *pay* for this Ph.D? ( http://www.waldenu.edu/c/Schools/Schools_8323.htm) Assume for a moment that Walden is a worthy place to earn a degree and can actually help you get a job in a competitive environment. Why would you go there when you can go to other schools for free? Yes, Walden has scholarships, but far from everyone can access them ( http://www.waldenu.edu/c/Tuition/8331_11158.htm). The doctroral scholarship is $4,000 per year if you get it ( http://www.waldenu.edu/c/Tuition/8331_10024.htm). Please correct me if I'm missing something, but why Walden? That's the question. Untenured |
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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2008, 08:21:34 AM » |
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I don't call it a recruiting tool. But I think it serves a great purpose to let the world know how Walden works. It helps lay to rest many of the baseless rumors about the institution. If a Walden recruiter contacts someone, it is because that person submitted an inquiry form or began an application. Recruitment does not sniff out possible applicants. These professional adults inquire and make an informed decision as whether or not to apply. By looking at the number of posts under some of you all's name, I understand why you all spend so much time nitpicking what others have to say. Some of you have too much time on your hands. I primarily read the copy of The Chronicle that comes to my mailbox. I don't have as much time to sit at a computer pushing through almost 20,000 + posts to argue with complete strangers. With so much time, perhaps you all should try taking an online class from somewhere. Most institutions offer them now. Or perhaps put more work in the pipeline for publication or presentation. Someone's previous post about Jackson State University peeked my interest about exactly what the R1 institutions are. Unless someone can provide another listing, I will use this one offered by the Carnegie Foundation. http://www.carnegiefoundation.org/classifications/index.asp?key=63&search_flag=true&ref=783&start=783&BASIC2005=15In looking at this list, most of these schools have some combination of a Engineering, Law, Medical, or Vet school attached to it. This is what makes up most of their "research" status. What I find most interesting, (and I acknowledge my bias), is that The University of Mississippi has a solid law school, pharmacy school, and a very good medical school with a level 1 trauma medical center.... but has not made the list. Ole Miss had $128 million (omitting the medical school) in external funding last year and has 30 research centers. On that same note, Johns Hopkins made this list but has one of the most awful business schools around. JH rides off its medical/health related research and leaves much to be desired about the rest of the university. I am even more surprised that Howard didn't make the list. But I guess that's how things are. |
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« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2008, 08:24:01 AM » |
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As for finding "any" WU graduates in a tenure track position at an R1 university..... try Jackson State University: Dr. Wilson is an Assoc. Professor and Divison Head. The provost of Oral Roberts is a Walden alum. Dr. S Robinson is tenured at Penn State- Hazleton. Dr. P. Maresco is a clinical assistant professor of marketing at the John F. Welch College of Business at Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, Conn. This is an AACSB accredited business school. One would argue that there should be more, but please yield to my lower statement.
You've made a big deal about Maresco at Sacred Heart and his Walden Ph.D.. Sacred Heart is not an R1. If you look closer, Dr. Maresco is a clinical assistant professor. Clinicals are generally hired because of their industry or external experience, not their research Ph.D. If you read Sacred Heart's webage on him as well as his resume ( http://www.drpetermaresco.com/resume.htm), you can tell that he was a heavy hitter in marketing before he entered academia. His Walden degree was earned in the late 1990s. I seriously doubt the folks at Sacred Heart said, "wow, this guy has a Walden Ph.D., let's hire him." More likely they said, "wow, this guy has years and years of marketing success in the real world. And he has a Ph.D. too so he can teach graduate classes, let's hire him." I don't see the Walden degree helping him all that much other than punching a ticket to teach graduate courses. If you want to show us that Walden graduates people who can compete in the academic marketplace, you'll have to do better than that. Untenured Perhaps you shoud review the post that I made stating that his experience and credentials made him a prime candidate for the job? This is what made him both professionally and academically qualified according to the AACSB's standards. |
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« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2008, 08:27:01 AM » |
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Perhaps you shoud review the post that I made stating that his experience and credentials made him a prime candidate for the job? This is what made him both professionally and academically qualified according to the AACSB's standards.
So then we can both agree. The Walden Ph.D. really had nothing to do with Dr. M obtaining the job at Sacred Heart. Untenured |
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« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2008, 08:31:47 AM » |
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You are correct but the Committment to Social Change Scholarship for doctoral students awards up to $25,000 and is awarded $4,000 per quarter. I personally received several awards as well as publication honoraria which helped to eat my tuition costs. Each fellowship has an award of $10,000 each. If he's smart, a Ph.D. student at Walden can get his tuition paid for. One thing to note again, Walden U is a nontraditional institution that specializes in adult centered learning. Most of the students' employers are paying for them to attend there. |
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