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jonesey
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« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2008, 11:00:48 AM »

Many HS coaches don't teach PE.  They teach History, or Math, or Social Sciences, etc, and coach on the side for extra money. 

He's got an MEd., so he's good to go for a VP/Assistant Principle position in the K-12 system, especially with prior teaching experience.  He should be looking at the local K-12 districts, which is what an MEd is designed for (not for college teaching).  With his experience, he should know all of this already. 

With an MEd, he'll also have a good shot at non-academic jobs in fields like Corporate Training (which pays a bit more than teaching anyway). 

He needs to do what everyone does: find any job right now, then continue to look for his dream job after he gains employment.  Long gaps of unemployment make getting a job harder, not easier.

Good luck.
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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2008, 02:25:48 PM »

Many HS coaches don't teach PE.  They teach History, or Math, or Social Sciences, etc, and coach on the side for extra money. 

He's got an MEd., so he's good to go for a VP/Assistant Principle position in the K-12 system, especially with prior teaching experience.  He should be looking at the local K-12 districts, which is what an MEd is designed for (not for college teaching).  With his experience, he should know all of this already. 


Nope - he's not qualified for VP positions without an administrative credential - which is why I suggested he pursue an Ed Leadership degree earlier.

I agree, however, that an MEd job is definitely not preparation for college teaching - it's a practitioners' degree for K-12 school personnel.
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« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2008, 04:56:58 PM »

Just to be contrary and not to say that hubby is not being difficult, but...

Hubby has given up a job he has worked very hard for (advanced degree, substitute teaching, working his way up a school hierarchy) in order to follow wife to a tt position SHE wants close to HER family, and HE is not being flexible? What if it were the other way around and hubby had refused to move, insisted he loved his job, and it was tt wife who was rummaging around for jobs in his area?  Wouldn't he be viewed as inflexible then too?

In fact, hubby has been flexible but may be depressed by the loss of his job and the move to a different geographical area.
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« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2008, 05:16:17 PM »

I have been in a similar position.  Sounds like you and your hubby need to spend some quality time together.  He probably just needs to feel appreciated, loved, and useful. 
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« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2008, 05:26:12 PM »

I'm going to take a guess from the comment that there are 7 colleges/universities in your area that you are in a rather urban/suburban area.

In large urban/suburban schools, you often are not hired unless you have subbed in the school district, and preferably have been evaluated in a long-term sub job.  That's how it works in big places with plenty of candidates.  Often jobs are not posted externally because the in-house newsletter has a big enough circulation to count as a legit posting.  These are desirable districts to teach in and you have to go through a rigorous interview to be a sub. These are also districts that value experienced teachers and will hire from surrounding areas.

So, I'm thinking that your husband will need to get a teaching job in a nearby small town or inner-city, OR get on the sub lists of his favorite nearby school districts.

Is he certified in any other areas besides P.E.?  That would also help.

Oh, and if he DOES land a job in a nearby school, it will be the job that no one else in the district wanted.  It will be the bottom of the totem pole, as teachers with seniority will bid on the openings that are "better" than the job that they currently hold.

I think that subbing is a great way to check out the schools in the area.  I did it several times when I moved.

And for cripes sakes, he's 35.  The students aren't going to pull funny stuff with him like he's a 22 year old newbie.

All the best!
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« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2008, 10:56:37 PM »

Hubby has given up a job he has worked very hard for (advanced degree, substitute teaching, working his way up a school hierarchy) in order to follow wife to a tt position SHE wants close to HER family, and HE is not being flexible? What if it were the other way around and hubby had refused to move, insisted he loved his job, and it was tt wife who was rummaging around for jobs in his area?  Wouldn't he be viewed as inflexible then too?

In fact, hubby has been flexible but may be depressed by the loss of his job and the move to a different geographical area.

Actually he is (well, "kinda" is now - explained in next paragraph) depressed.  He did give up a great job in a city he liked to move here so we could be close to BOTH of our families.  He has sacrificed and feels like he's worthless for not being able to get that kind of job again. 

So now he's ready to move away just so he can have this really nice job that he has an interview for next week.  It's a HS athletic director job and it's back in the same place we lived and school district he left!  Go figure...  He's so excited about it.  Pays more and everything.  There's no way he'd get that position or anything close to it here anytime in the near future.  He has a really good shot at getting it.  He'll take it if he gets offered the position; no doubt about it.  I asked him what about us and he says we have holidays and the summers and it's only 5.5 hrs drive.  But if I get tenure and his job there is wonderful...  then what??  Can't be separate forever.  I dunno...  Like I said before, it's really in God's hands because if he stays here with either no job or a job he doesn't want, we'd be very unhappy, like we've been the past 6 months.  Maybe it would be better if he does get the job...             
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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2008, 12:18:43 AM »

Maybe it would be better if he does get the job...             

My own experience has been that almost anything is better than having a spouse who is unhappy and who is feeling, on some level, victimized - by you, by the local hiring situation (also related to you since you got the job there) and so on.
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« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2008, 09:13:21 AM »


So now he's ready to move away just so he can have this really nice job that he has an interview for next week.  It's a HS athletic director job and it's back in the same place we lived and school district he left!  Go figure...  He's so excited about it.  Pays more and everything.  There's no way he'd get that position or anything close to it here anytime in the near future.  He has a really good shot at getting it.  He'll take it if he gets offered the position; no doubt about it.  I asked him what about us and he says we have holidays and the summers and it's only 5.5 hrs drive.  But if I get tenure and his job there is wonderful...  then what??  Can't be separate forever.  I dunno...  Like I said before, it's really in God's hands because if he stays here with either no job or a job he doesn't want, we'd be very unhappy, like we've been the past 6 months.  Maybe it would be better if he does get the job...             

I wouldn't worry about the logistics just yet... if you haven't seen other topics, "a really good shot" does not always work out.  Work on your relationship with him in the meantime.
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« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2008, 09:34:27 PM »

Sesua, I just wanted you to know that I'm sending best wishes and prayers for you and your family.  Take good care of yourself, whatever happens.  God bless.
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