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[baka_janai]

I love it when these random-shot-across-the-bow threads pop up out of nowhere.  Fascinating.  It's like the CHE are a venting outlet for dissatisfied academics from all over the world.

This of it as the cyber-world version of a message in a bottle -- cast into the cyber-seas as an act of vague and resigned desperation.  The message:  I'm here.  I exist.

[baka_janai]

Or if you don't want to to "this about it," you can "think about it" instead.

[rabbler]

Did you not realize when you took the job that this would entail "Third World" living and working conditions?  Did the $20,000 a year salary not give you a clue?

An experienced content teacher gets $29,000 a year plus $750 per month ($9000 per year) for housing. It isn't great, and many who are used to the gravy train would never accept it. But $38,000 per year is significantly better than $20,000 per year you refer to.

I would imagine the whole ENTIRE point of taking a job in the Marshall Island would be to experience a competely different perspective.   And that's exactly what would appeal to me about such a job.  If I were single with no financial commitments, I might well be tempted.

Yes for many a big part of taking such a job would be to live outside of the United States in an interesting cultural context. It was the fifth such completely different cultural environment I have worked in. My main point in writing about CMI was not to discuss the culture, but describe what seem to be destructive, incompetent, and nakedly self promoting AMERICAN administrators.

[baka_janai]

My main point in writing about CMI was not to discuss the culture, but describe what seem to be destructive, incompetent, and nakedly self promoting AMERICAN administrators.

Which I think is somehow totally part-and-parcel of the third world experience. 

[jonesey]

My main point in writing about CMI was not to discuss the culture, but describe what seem to be destructive, incompetent, and nakedly self promoting AMERICAN administrators.

Which I think is somehow totally part-and-parcel of the third world experience. 

c.f. The Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, etc.

[profxfiles]

I was more impressed by the salary range for the "Dean of Academic Affairs" --$32,000-$45,000 + $9,000/year housing. Sign me up!

[oldcalif]

My main point in writing about CMI was not to discuss the culture, but describe what seem to be destructive, incompetent, and nakedly self promoting AMERICAN administrators.

Which I think is somehow totally part-and-parcel of the third world experience. 

c.f. The Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, etc.

If you two are implying that Americans are the majority of destructive, incompetent, and nakedly self promoting administrators in the "third world" experience, you are dreaming up some twisted false reality.

[oldcalif]

I was more impressed by the salary range for the "Dean of Academic Affairs" --$32,000-$45,000 + $9,000/year housing. Sign me up!

Well, go for it! After six or so Dean of Academic Affairs have quit the last couple of years, they certainly would like you to give it a try.

Oh wait...maybe there's a reason why so many have quit?

[scienceprof]

Thanks, I'll be sure not to apply there.

Hey folks, check out the Fatih University thread.  It just gets wierder.  These hugely long posts and all the newbies.  So strange.

Untenured

Yes, like clyde, who has three posts on the entire fora, all three in that thread, one from 2006, one from 2007, and one from yesterday!  It is very mysterious!

[untenured]

Indeed, who comes to the fora once a year to complain?

When I was a kid, we had a birdfeeder.  The family put in conventional bird food.  We got the usual visitors.  We changed the bird food to some wierd exotic mix.   All of a sudden we were visited by all these wierd looking birds.

These threads are like the exotic birdseed.

Untenured

[uatraveler]

Hi, Everyone.

Sorry to rehash this old thread, but I'm unable to find any other relevant information about CMI on this website or the Internet.  CMI has a few jobs I'm interested in applying to, but I'm curious if the situation has changed much in recent years? Any information or insight you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bryan

[grhouse]

I worked at the Gugeegue Campus back in 2002 for a few months before I convinced them to close the campus due to structural issues with the classroom. At that time they were paying me about $23,000 a year plus living quarters. The conditions were bad but I understood that to begin with. What made it unbearable was the Dean of that campus who tried to run it like his own little kingdom. He kept the keys to everything looked up in his apartment and if he and his wife went someplace the classroom building was locked up with no access to the computers or spotty dial-up Internet service. There were 3 vans but he kept the keys to all of them! If one of the full-time faculty (only ME) wanted to go to town (5 miles away) they had to go when he went or walk most of the time unless you could catch a ride during the week on the school bus. If you missed the last one you walked back with no lights. They still owe me money by my calculation. Gene

[mingus]

Hi, Everyone.

Sorry to rehash this old thread, but I'm unable to find any other relevant information about CMI on this website or the Internet.  CMI has a few jobs I'm interested in applying to, but I'm curious if the situation has changed much in recent years? Any information or insight you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bryan

Apply?  Don't be a mug.  Quit before the tears come.

[crkens]

It's interesting to see how all the distinguished members have climbed aboard and distorted this thread.  It's nice to see all of you sunbathing!

[oldfullprof]

Yeh, clearly the consulting group and the administration are FOS.  I worked for an HBCU in TX where they played the same key game.  I needed to have a classroom opened for a Saturday grad class, and the key-man for the building didn't want to give it to me because he was power-tripping. 

Actually the worst salaries I've heard of are for (what were or are) the salaries of the people teaching on aircraft carriers who worked for central TX University.  They were below a thousand per class in the mid-nineties.