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thundering_m
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« Reply #1620 on: November 14, 2009, 04:39:55 PM »

Congrats to everyone else.
Got a 'not going to pursue the book at this time' notice after 4 months. Next publisher.

You're lucky they only took 4 months. But yeah, on to the next publisher!

Well, I sent a follow up letter asking about its status and that may have tipped it. Now I've lost heart for the project at all. So, maybe they were right. Aborted instead of stillborn.

Congrats on finishing the R&R, SocSci. Hope the publication date is timely for your next dossier submission.

Thank you. I'm so relieved to have it done with.

Your comment makes me wonder if you sent a manuscript or a proposal. I personally would have a hard time giving up on a project if I'd written a whole manuscript. On the other hand, if it were just a proposal, you should submit it to multiple publishers, not one at a time. Good luck!
Good advice, SocSci. Thanks. I have invested a lot into it and I just sent a proposal off to another publisher that may actually be a better fit. I guess it took a vent/whine to get me off the dime. I know people do send out the same proposal to multiple houses but I always thought that was a bit dicey if not unethical. I guess to the prompt editor belong the acquisition spoils.
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« Reply #1621 on: November 14, 2009, 05:43:17 PM »

Good advice, SocSci. Thanks. I have invested a lot into it and I just sent a proposal off to another publisher that may actually be a better fit. I guess it took a vent/whine to get me off the dime. I know people do send out the same proposal to multiple houses but I always thought that was a bit dicey if not unethical. I guess to the prompt editor belong the acquisition spoils.

In my experience, most publishers consider you to be well within your rights to submit a proposal to more than one of them. However, in the academic publishing world, almost all of them will only review your completed manuscript on an exclusive basis. I would submit the proposal to multiple publishing houses in waves: only to your most preferred publishers first, then move down the line if none of them bites. Glad to hear you've resubmitted it already. Good luck.
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« Reply #1622 on: November 14, 2009, 09:48:44 PM »

Well, dang.  I finally accomplished something on The Manuscript That Will Not Die.  I spent a few hours indexing it and checking references.  My co-author is keeping in touch with me on the subject as well. 

He remembers who I am, which is reassuring, considering how long I've been busy with the new job and all that.

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« Reply #1623 on: November 15, 2009, 12:41:53 PM »

Congrats, Conjugate and SocSci!

I just sent the final version of a co-authored piece to the co-author, who is supposed to have resubmitted it Friday. And still no word. I sent a reminder email...WTF? Get it outta here!
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« Reply #1624 on: November 15, 2009, 01:00:26 PM »

Well, things finally moved on one manuscript front. Unfortunately, they moved to a "no." This is for the aptly named "Book Manuscript from Hell that will Never See the Light of Day." At least not by my publisher of choice. Will send proposal out to the next (5?) in line tomorrow. Will mope and whine today.

This leaves one article under review and another with a colleague whom I would like to contribute to it (somehow I have the feeling that the grammar cops will arrest the second part of this sentence for sheer incompetence). And, silly me, prepping a new course for the next semester has given me the idiotic idea of drafting another book around it.

I should go and clean house - that way, I'll have a tangible achievement to enjoy for one thing, at least. Of course, having my third year review coming up in January, I doubt that a clean house will impress my committee.
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« Reply #1625 on: November 15, 2009, 04:40:57 PM »

Cat_on_track, I'm sorry to hear about the rejection. But it sounds like you have a great plan B (and C and so on)!

I have a question about this:

And, silly me, prepping a new course for the next semester has given me the idiotic idea of drafting another book around it.

When you say drafting a book around a new course, do you mean a textbook or a book based on your research that deals with this topic? I'm asking because I have the opportunity to develop a number of new courses at my new place and I'd love to be able to make that work for my research as well. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!

As for tenure, given your record on this thread, I am sure you are doing great! And we're all doing better than the poor protagonist of the Coen brothers' new film "A Serious Man" who, when told by the tenure committee chair that he needed to submit anything in support of his tenure application by Wednesday, like any publications, responded, "Oh. I haven't published anything. I haven't done anything!" with a pained look on his face.
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« Reply #1626 on: November 15, 2009, 06:25:17 PM »

Got an article about 3/4 toward ready to submit; 2 weeks until deadline. I've recruited a junior colleague who I would like to cultivate. Hu is quite happy to collaborate on it and will buttress the whole thing with lit review etc. We even hatched a nice empirical study to go with it that we should have done by spring. I'm OK with letting go of a whole project and trusting that a colleague will not only contribute but actually produce. The trick is to stop and think of where that collaboration will work. Yet it must, for I simply haven't the time or brain cells to do it all.
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« Reply #1627 on: November 15, 2009, 06:56:40 PM »

As for tenure, given your record on this thread, I am sure you are doing great!

Please, please, please tell me that you are one of my committee members in disguise!? Especially the one who is from a completely different field and thinks that a person from an article-field should have a book for tenure!

I will be teaching a course that is an extension of my research. There are books (readers, mostly) that deal with the whole field (not just my research topic), but they focus on only part of the problem (and not the, in my mind, interesting one). Since I have to collect the original materials for the course, may as well draft it out. Wisdom has it that if you are interested in a topic, teach it - it permits you to claim research time as prep time!
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« Reply #1628 on: November 16, 2009, 06:25:42 PM »

Update: after about 30 hours of moping and whining and e-mailing the book proposal to the next publisher in line, I got a "want to read the manuscript!" Yes, yes, yes, I know - reading don't mean nothing - pfft! I'm closer than I was yesterday! Will return to moping etc. when this "no" comes.
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« Reply #1629 on: November 16, 2009, 07:29:33 PM »

Now that's the cat's meow. {purrs in happy support}
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« Reply #1630 on: November 19, 2009, 06:26:38 PM »

The purring must have helped, Thundering: the editor wrote "I like it" (sweeter words were never e-mailed!) and is forwarding the manuscript to reviewers.

This is so very, very nerve-wrecking. And my only avoidance strategy is to finish up an article manuscript and to send that out tomorrow. If I were a nail-biter, I'd be down to the bone by now!
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« Reply #1631 on: November 20, 2009, 03:57:50 AM »

Hurray!

I just wanted to say that I have a manuscript to finish by Christmas.  It's going to be tough.
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« Reply #1632 on: November 20, 2009, 12:24:23 PM »

Hurray!

I just wanted to say that I have a manuscript to finish by Christmas.  It's going to be tough.

Hard time of year to stay focused, too--happy writing!

I've just finally sent off an article that my collaborators and I have been working on for two years. And it's not the case that we've been procrastinating; it turned into one of those emergent things where each round of analysis yielded not only results, but substantial theoretical implications for our entire framework, which in turn then had to be reconceived, leading to addition modes of analysis.... We've already presented on a portion of it at a conference and it was well-received, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the journal editor will like it. Also, though, we've submitted to the very top journal in the field, which has an acceptance rate of well under 10%. Yeah, we have chutzpah. :)

Now it's time to plunge into rewriting my more recent conference papers for journal submission.
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« Reply #1633 on: November 20, 2009, 05:54:05 PM »

Paws crossed for you both, Cat and MsP!

I sent a couple of papers out in late August; both have gone for review.  No news is good news, right?

I hope I'm right.
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« Reply #1634 on: November 20, 2009, 06:37:39 PM »

I sent a couple of papers out in late August; both have gone for review.  No news is good news, right?

I hope I'm right.

I have one that is out for review also (with the same collaborators), and I'm looking upon this as good news also; after all, the editor sent it out rather than just bouncing it straight back!
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