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« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2008, 08:17:10 PM »

We traveled out of Omaha one time when the kids were smaller (maybe there was only one?), and they woke the child up who was sleeping in the stroller, made her walk through, even though one of her parents was not on the other side of the screener, and they wouldn't let one of us go through first to help her.

Jerks. So now the kid is wailing, I am seriously pissed and these yahoos Xray the umbrella stroller.

Think about this. An umbrella stroller is nothing but a little bit of material stretched out over a metal frame. Xray it and what are you going to see? The same metal frame. And those little tubes I had packed full of plastique? The Xray's not going to see it because it can't see inside the tubes.

And what of these randomly selected searches? If the stats I've been teaching to undergrads for years is correct, then all this gives us is a sample of who the perps are when some plane does go down? We'll stop what, ten percent of them? Great.
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« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2008, 10:43:34 PM »

We traveled out of Omaha one time when the kids were smaller (maybe there was only one?), and they woke the child up who was sleeping in the stroller, made her walk through, even though one of her parents was not on the other side of the screener, and they wouldn't let one of us go through first to help her.

Jerks. So now the kid is wailing, I am seriously pissed and these yahoos Xray the umbrella stroller.

Think about this. An umbrella stroller is nothing but a little bit of material stretched out over a metal frame. Xray it and what are you going to see? The same metal frame. And those little tubes I had packed full of plastique? The Xray's not going to see it because it can't see inside the tubes.

And what of these randomly selected searches? If the stats I've been teaching to undergrads for years is correct, then all this gives us is a sample of who the perps are when some plane does go down? We'll stop what, ten percent of them? Great.

I'm not going to defend their behavior, but the X-ray machine can in fact penetrate thin metal tubing like that of an umbrella stroller.   They couldn't have you push the stroller through the metal detector because, well, it's metal, and that would be pointless.  Obviously they should have let one of you go through first and do the "Come to momma" thing.

The randomly selected searches are about the appearance of security, not actual security.  But they're also not randomly selected.  If you fly on a ticket you bought the day before, or have certain ethnic looks/dress (not speaking just of Arabic here; TSA screeners can't tell the differences), you are much more likely to be searched, though they would deny this.
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« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2008, 10:53:41 PM »

Its all "security theatre" and its all done for "us" so we will "feel safe"
Every display of random, ineffective pretend security makes me feel less safe. My last flight is a good case in point.  I used the suitcase for a road trip some months before. As the bag went through the x-ray I clearly saw the outline of a the all-in-one tool that is highly illegal on flights as well as a lighter and scissors that were part of a bag of odds and ends we might need while camping on the road trip. They slipped under the bottom of the suitcase/duffle and I hadn't seen them.

But, as the two HS idiots were talking basketball to each other, I saw them slide by on the screen as clearly as can be. On the return trip? That x-ray guy was *staring* at the screen and didn't even register what he was looking at.  But, they did catch that 3.2 oz shampoo!

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« Reply #63 on: April 30, 2008, 01:48:46 AM »

What I don't understand is that the US still doesn't offload baggage of passengers who miss flights. This just happened to my niece - her bags flew to Boston while she stayed in Newark.
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« Reply #64 on: April 30, 2008, 08:24:17 AM »

At another airport, an overzealous TSA agent attempted to search my hairstyle--one of the screeners was just obnoxiously interested in what could be concealed in a bun and ordered me to unwrap it all.  I attracted the attention of a female TSA screener with elaborate braids and she tore this guy a new one for "touching ladies' hair again."  Cree-py.  Maybe a great job for fetishists.

This is truly creepy.
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« Reply #65 on: April 30, 2008, 08:46:36 AM »

At another airport, an overzealous TSA agent attempted to search my hairstyle--one of the screeners was just obnoxiously interested in what could be concealed in a bun and ordered me to unwrap it all.  I attracted the attention of a female TSA screener with elaborate braids and she tore this guy a new one for "touching ladies' hair again."  Cree-py.  Maybe a great job for fetishists.

This is truly creepy.

Yeah, love the "again" part of the phrase.
The year I interviewed and got my tt was the first full-on TSA presence. I saw searches of women's luggage with guys holding up and commenting on underwear, two guys joking about contents of luggage outloud and a couple of public "body searches" that were more like grope fests including a loud "I *love* my job!" outburst from one as he "searched" a teenaged girl.  Yep, I'm really impressed with "security"
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« Reply #66 on: May 02, 2008, 03:24:57 PM »

I have truly scary allergies, and I got on a plane last year with *four* epinephrine pens -- each of them the size of a very large magic marker and equipped with a long, spring-loaded needle. You could put someone's eye out for sure.

They didn't even ask me about them. But they *did* seize my husband's hair gel.
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