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saguaro
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2008, 01:42:44 PM »

A grad school friend had a Hispanic last name via a distant Basque ancestor, but was a white bread as they come. And he had worked for the Republican leadership offices in a state legislator--which because the Democrats were in the majority had a name something like "The Minority Office." He highlighted both things on his application materials.

And yet I don't think he ever landed a TT position.

Being a Republican must have been a dead giveaway that he was white.

That is a racist statement. You are implying that black people cannot think for themselves and must follow the stereotype.
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2008, 01:59:47 PM »

I'm in a city that's nearly minority-majority and we have some faculty members with "ethnic" names that they married into -- they are very white -- and others with "white" names who look very "ethnic." Works out nicely for grant apps to include those with "ethnic" names.
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2008, 02:01:50 PM »

A grad school friend had a Hispanic last name via a distant Basque ancestor, but was a white bread as they come. And he had worked for the Republican leadership offices in a state legislator--which because the Democrats were in the majority had a name something like "The Minority Office." He highlighted both things on his application materials.

And yet I don't think he ever landed a TT position.

Being a Republican must have been a dead giveaway that he was white.

That is a racist statement. You are implying that black people cannot think for themselves and must follow the stereotype.

Or that the Republican party has done a remarkably good job at alienating black voters by constantly dismissing their concerns and insulting their intelligence.

One or the other ;)
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2008, 02:07:31 PM »

A grad school friend had a Hispanic last name via a distant Basque ancestor, but was a white bread as they come. And he had worked for the Republican leadership offices in a state legislator--which because the Democrats were in the majority had a name something like "The Minority Office." He highlighted both things on his application materials.

And yet I don't think he ever landed a TT position.

Being a Republican must have been a dead giveaway that he was white.

That is a racist statement. You are implying that black people cannot think for themselves and must follow the stereotype.

Or that the Republican party has done a remarkably good job at alienating black voters by constantly dismissing their concerns and insulting their intelligence.

One or the other ;)

Whew. I was waiting to see if someone else was going to chime in.

Saguaro's post is also really odd because he assumes I was commenting on blacks, when Larry C's comment was about someone with a Hispanic name.

My post was a cheap shot at the Republican Party, plain and simple, and I am happy to own that. It was a blanket compliment to minorities for being, on the whole, smart enough not to vote for Republicans.
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2008, 02:20:16 PM »

A grad school friend had a Hispanic last name via a distant Basque ancestor, but was a white bread as they come. And he had worked for the Republican leadership offices in a state legislator--which because the Democrats were in the majority had a name something like "The Minority Office." He highlighted both things on his application materials.

And yet I don't think he ever landed a TT position.

Being a Republican must have been a dead giveaway that he was white.

That is a racist statement. You are implying that black people cannot think for themselves and must follow the stereotype.

Or that the Republican party has done a remarkably good job at alienating black voters by constantly dismissing their concerns and insulting their intelligence.

One or the other ;)

Whew. I was waiting to see if someone else was going to chime in.

Saguaro's post is also really odd because he assumes I was commenting on blacks, when Larry C's comment was about someone with a Hispanic name.

My post was a cheap shot at the Republican Party, plain and simple, and I am happy to own that. It was a blanket compliment to minorities for being, on the whole, smart enough not to vote for Republicans.

Not really odd, but rather a mistake. The original post was commenting on black names, so I had that on my mind. Since the previous post talked about Hispanics, I should have said "minorities" rather than "black people." Hispanics are also quite capable of thinking for themselves and not following stereotypes.
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2008, 03:02:26 PM »

I don't know that it is a stereotype that African-Americans and Hispanics then to vote Democratic, because the stats say they do. 
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2008, 03:07:04 PM »

I had an Anglo friend in a traditionally African-American field, and she described interviews in which the committee-members completely failed to hide their disappointment that she was white. After many conference interviews that went nowhere, she started mentioning her race in her cover letter. She got fewer interviews, but eventually landed a TT job.
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2008, 03:09:35 PM »

A grad school friend had a Hispanic last name via a distant Basque ancestor, but was a white bread as they come. And he had worked for the Republican leadership offices in a state legislator--which because the Democrats were in the majority had a name something like "The Minority Office." He highlighted both things on his application materials.

And yet I don't think he ever landed a TT position.

Being a Republican must have been a dead giveaway that he was white.


The word Republican did not appear on his cv, just "Minority Office, Transylvanian State Assembly" or something like that. I wish I had kept track of him, he was a good guy. I think he went into academic administration while waiting for the history job market to improve and ended up making too much money to go back.
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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2008, 03:42:44 PM »

A grad school friend had a Hispanic last name via a distant Basque ancestor, but was a white bread as they come. And he had worked for the Republican leadership offices in a state legislator--which because the Democrats were in the majority had a name something like "The Minority Office." He highlighted both things on his application materials.

And yet I don't think he ever landed a TT position.

Being a Republican must have been a dead giveaway that he was white.

That is a racist statement. You are implying that black people cannot think for themselves and must follow the stereotype.

Or that the Republican party has done a remarkably good job at alienating black voters by constantly dismissing their concerns and insulting their intelligence.

One or the other ;)

Whew. I was waiting to see if someone else was going to chime in.

Saguaro's post is also really odd because he assumes I was commenting on blacks, when Larry C's comment was about someone with a Hispanic name.

My post was a cheap shot at the Republican Party, plain and simple, and I am happy to own that. It was a blanket compliment to minorities for being, on the whole, smart enough not to vote for Republicans.

Not really odd, but rather a mistake. The original post was commenting on black names, so I had that on my mind. Since the previous post talked about Hispanics, I should have said "minorities" rather than "black people." Hispanics are also quite capable of thinking for themselves and not following stereotypes.

Bless your heart.
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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2008, 08:46:58 AM »

Thanks all for the replies...I will try not to worry about this. 
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