bacardiandlime
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« on: March 18, 2008, 08:08:27 AM » |
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http://chronicle.com/jobs/news/2008/03/2008031901c/careers.htmlIn this article, the author admits to: * not bothering to attend her discipline's annual conference * blowing off interviews (she doesn't address the fact that academia is a small world, and word may have spread of her cold-feet performance of ditching campus visits, and this might be a factor in her subsequent lack of success in getting interview invitations) * she has a PhD from a school with a rep as a diploma mill, but she won't accept anything less than a T-T position. Who is she kidding?
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YOU ARE NASTY
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polly_mer
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2008, 08:26:39 AM » |
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Ah, Bacardiandlime. You're not thinking about this as the golden opportunity it is. People who take themselves out of the running leave more jobs open for the rest of us.
In a couple of years, she will show up here bitter and cranky and we can say "How about engaging in your field and acting like an academic, if you really want a job?" She will pitch a hissy fit about how mean we are and then we can flame away with glee.
Lesson for the viewers at home: Don't be the author of this article. Either get your head in the game or admit you don't want it and go find something else to do.
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2008, 05:32:53 AM » |
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But note she does manage to insert the obligatory and completely inane reference to "interdisciplinary interests".
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2008, 11:59:47 AM » |
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I was most shocked by the part about not going to the interviews. What?! Rule #1 of the job search: If you get invited for an interview, and you want a job, you have to actually go on the interview. Jeez, what sort of job-search advice has she been handing out all these years?
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[R]eality sometimes has a left-wing bias.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2008, 12:05:39 PM » |
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That article was such a trainwreck. I couldn't believe that someone that clueless could get a first person column, much less that she was considered competent to give job-seeking advice in ANY field. Shouldn't part of her advice be doing your homework about your chosen profession? The advice she was giving was so elementary that the only people it would help would be the people who don't read the advice columns in the CHE anyway.
I wonder what the diploma mill school is.... U of Phoenix?
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I'm not ignoring you. I'm playing leapdog with your post.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2008, 01:20:56 PM » |
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That article was such a trainwreck. I couldn't believe that someone that clueless could get a first person column, much less that she was considered competent to give job-seeking advice in ANY field. Shouldn't part of her advice be doing your homework about your chosen profession? The advice she was giving was so elementary that the only people it would help would be the people who don't read the advice columns in the CHE anyway.
I wonder what the diploma mill school is.... U of Phoenix?
I think that you raise the real issue: an editor should have turned down this column. When I once suggested that a different column was so poorly written that the editors were to blame for publishing it, I was accused of trying to stifle free speech. No, I just regret wasting my time on a poor piece of writing. In the present case, the author undercuts her authority in several ways, as everyone as pointed out. I'm beginning to think that there is a regular problem with first-person columns in the Chronicle. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2008, 01:28:26 PM » |
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I thought this article was a spoof.
It made me want to poof.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2008, 04:25:18 PM » |
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Right - and how about not applying for jobs in locations that you won't live in? I thought that was one of the ground rules... you know, so you don't waste everyone's bloody time? This article made me want to put my head through a window. This person actually made a living telling other people how to get jobs? Umm, no. Clearly, I am too dumb to deserve a Ph.D. No comment. |
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I think this thread is going well. Don't you think this thread is going well?
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miss_m
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2008, 11:06:02 PM » |
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I can't believe no one has yet mentioned that she was including unpublished ungraduate course papers on her CV and GOT INTERVIEWS. I think I would have a hard time not laughing at a graduating senior making that mistake. It's like including the National Honor Society on your resume while looking for a job after college. More than the article was a trainwreck here, I think.
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"In academia, there's always someone who is brighter, more charismatic, more connected, more insightful, and more well-paid than you."
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2008, 11:55:02 PM » |
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I'm beginning to think that there is a regular problem with first-person columns in the Chronicle.
Maybe the problem is that they need to publish a first person article every single day. |
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2008, 10:10:45 AM » |
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The article charts a personal journey from ignorant newbie to someone who now sees how foolish she was. Doesn't everyone get that? Everyone seems to be bashing the author based on her admissions of how stupid she was when she was just started out. She knows this. That's what she's telling us. She's telling us how silly it was to include those grad papers and non-academic articles -- and also how emotionally hard it was to get rid of them.
Were none of you ever job search newbies yourselves once? Or are you just afraid to admit it now.
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baka_janai
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2008, 10:16:58 AM » |
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This person actually made a living telling other people how to get jobs? She wasn't telling them how to get academic jobs. I'd been successfully getting jobs for years and years before I ever ran up against all of the BS involved with applying for (and landing) a TT job. It's a whole different (twisted) universe. |
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larryc
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2008, 10:26:00 AM » |
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Claudia Hent is the pseudonym of a Ph.D. in interdisciplinary studies with a concentration in organizational behavior.
The sad thing is that you knew that before you got to the end of the article.
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2008, 10:30:11 AM » |
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The article charts a personal journey from ignorant newbie to someone who now sees how foolish she was. Doesn't everyone get that? Everyone seems to be bashing the author based on her admissions of how stupid she was when she was just started out. She knows this. That's what she's telling us. She's telling us how silly it was to include those grad papers and non-academic articles -- and also how emotionally hard it was to get rid of them.
Were none of you ever job search newbies yourselves once? Or are you just afraid to admit it now.
Ah, Baka_Bourke. Welcome to the wild and wonderful fora! While I'm certain that you have accurately described what the author of the essay wanted to convey, that's not the tone of the essay or the main point that the author actually made. As an aside, because I can see that the above was your first post, we tend to be irreverent and snarky about anything that can be misread. Check over on the job searching threads. We don't necessarily hammer everyone who has a naive question, but sometimes the tone strikes us wrong or elicits the "How in the world did you make it through graduate school and not learn anything about the norms of your field?" response. The article strikes me (and I assume the other posters in this thread) as being like watching a high school senior give a talk on the meaning of life. It can work, but frequently one is just struck by how far that person has yet to go in the journey and not how far the person has come. |
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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baka_janai
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2008, 10:45:45 AM » |
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BTW, I included non-academic articles (in a separate section) on the CV that got me my current job. I guess the search committee hadn't read the rules on CVs. And yes it's very hard to take off the "old" stuff.
Dislaimer: I still don't know much more than "squat" about the process. Apparently, I made it all the way through my Ph.D. without learning any "squat."
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