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drangie
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« Reply #60 on: March 18, 2008, 02:13:51 PM »

Ummm, okay then.  I guess I won't be going to Germany any time soon.
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« Reply #61 on: August 22, 2009, 01:40:51 PM »

Article: German professors bribed into granting doctorates

I can't tell you how much I *love* this story, given their laws protecting the "integrity" of their precious degrees.  I confess to feeling some Schadenfreude.

A number of Herr Professor Drs appear to be headed to jail indeed. 
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« Reply #62 on: August 22, 2009, 02:37:32 PM »

Article: German professors bribed into granting doctorates

I can't tell you how much I *love* this story, given their laws protecting the "integrity" of their precious degrees.  I confess to feeling some Schadenfreude.

A number of Herr Professor Drs appear to be headed to jail indeed. 

Man, is there someone I can bribe to just give me my doctorate to get this  over with?

So on a related note to this thread, I was originally supposed to go to a conference in Germany next month. When I was working up my life schedule, it appeared as if I might have my defense and then take off for Germany the week after. And I thought to myself "How much of a bummer is it that the first conference I go to after my defense, I'm not supposed to use Dr. Scampster?" :-)
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« Reply #63 on: August 22, 2009, 02:49:43 PM »

So on a related note to this thread, I was originally supposed to go to a conference in Germany next month. When I was working up my life schedule, it appeared as if I might have my defense and then take off for Germany the week after. And I thought to myself "How much of a bummer is it that the first conference I go to after my defense, I'm not supposed to use Dr. Scampster?" :-)

Something similar happened to me - went to a conference the week after defending. The moderator was Dutch and introduced me as "Mr. Southerntransplant - he just defended his dissertation but has not completely finished the requirements, so I don't know what to call him because perhaps Canada or the US have different rules than we do in the Netherlands..."

By which time I had already ascended the stage and my speaker's clock had started...

Plus the magic PhD powers ring you get when you finish is on the 3G network, so it doesn't even work over there - so you'll have to pay full price for the Kaffee mit Kuchen...
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« Reply #64 on: August 22, 2009, 02:52:11 PM »


Plus the magic PhD powers ring you get when you finish is on the 3G network, so it doesn't even work over there - so you'll have to pay full price for the Kaffee mit Kuchen...


Ooh, I get special powers?

What about about a pony?

Do Germans get ponies in addition to being called Dr.?
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« Reply #65 on: August 22, 2009, 03:53:44 PM »

I received an email from Heidelberg University today, and they are operating at the Mr./Ms. level with me. What bothers me is that I then usually spend a few seconds contemplating possible reactions on my part, i.e., whether I should address them with Mr./Ms. in return instead of saying (writing) Dr. or Prof. Is there a good strategy to make these people wake up? What's worse, this particular email was forwarded by a student helper, "on behalf of Herr Prof. Dr."
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« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2009, 07:18:58 AM »

Just a funny little story (umm, I think it is funny....) about German academic titles being used outside academia:

I recently moved into a new apartment in a neighborhood of [Israeli city] where a lot of jekkes (Jews from Germany who immigrated in the 1930s) and their children traditionally live. The average age in our building is 60+, a lot of the residents were/are university lecturers and/or professors.On 8 out of 18 mail boxes the sign reads 'Dr. [last name],' one even has 'Dr. [female first name] and Dr. [male first name] [last name].'

A few days ago, a visiting professor from Germany moved into the building for a year. What did he put on his door and the mailbox?
'Professor Dr. [very German first name] [most German last name].'

It really cheers me up to see 'Her Professor's' mailbox every morning.
On the door of our apartment, there is only a magnet the local plumber put here to advertise his business (and behind that door two Dr.s and one person who is about to submit the thesis)....
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« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2009, 10:08:21 AM »

If you find the German habit of using multiple titles, and being (IMHO) needlessly formal and hierarchical, try reading the McCall Smith books about Herr Professor Doktor Von Iglefeld.  Truly Hilarious.  The first is PORTUGESE IRREGULAR VERBS.
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« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2009, 06:45:02 PM »

I suppose we should take some pity on them.  They invented the PhD, but their higher ed system, well... lassen uns eben sagen, dass es viel bessere Taege gesehen haben...
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« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2009, 09:46:12 PM »


Plus the magic PhD powers ring you get when you finish is on the 3G network, so it doesn't even work over there - so you'll have to pay full price for the Kaffee mit Kuchen...


Ooh, I get special powers?

What about about a pony?

Do Germans get ponies in addition to being called Dr.?

Every time a graduate student defends a dissertation, an angel gets his wings.
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