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« on: February 19, 2008, 10:11:03 AM » |
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Hi all. I have just been asked to serve on a search for a new chair in an area outside of my own. I've been on chair searches before so the process is not new to me. However, my experiences have been in schools of allied health and the sciences and the current search is in education. Upon agreeing to serve and receiving all of the pertinent info, I learned the projected range of the new chair's salary. As the outside person I had no input into the job post, salary, etc. My question regards the salary; it seems particularly low. In my experience, a new chair in allied health departments with 10 or fewer faculty, single program empahses with three degrees (B.A., M.S., Ph.D.) with less than 200 FTE students would have a salary that bare minimum would be excess of $135k for a 12-month contract with many fields being quite a bit higher. This search is in a school of education in a department with three distinct program areas, four undergraduate majors, five master's level majors, and three doctoral programs and over 500 FTE students. There are over 20 tenure line faculty in the department, along with some non-tt types and a support staff of over five people. The salary was ranged up-to $120. Given the size of the unit in terms of both faculty and students I had imagined it would be over the $140 mark at least.
My first thought was that this would not generate interest in the caliber of chair material they need (even with the negotiation factor weighed in). After all, $120 is the expected top (and given the current economy and the university's standard operating style I don't think anyone could go beyond the $120). I think they may shooting themselves in the foot. But, I'm not in education and maybe this is okay. Thought I would ask you chair and dean types if this is reasonable salary or not. My gut is to tell the chair of the search committee to wrangle up some more bucks (the program is good and they desrve a chair who will really put it in the right direction). Thoughts?
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derosa
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2008, 11:59:55 AM » |
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My institution is smaller than the one you describe. I chair a department of education with about 400 undergrad and grad students and about 12 TT faculty. The salary you are discussing is almost double my salary.
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takapa
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2008, 12:46:13 PM » |
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Oh wow derosa! Maybe it's a school of education thing? In allied health, a new first year assistant would make over $60k for a 9-month in any department, and quite a bit more in those departments where clinical jobs outside higher ed pay more. A little more information. The job is at a research-very high university. The school of ed has about a half a dozen departments and many more programs. Could be that this is an okay range for education though...
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derosa
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2008, 01:56:13 PM » |
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It certainly is dependent on institution...comparative salary data is probably available on the Chronicle web site.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2008, 08:37:48 PM » |
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Oh, yeah. I chair a social science department (several disciplines) in a regional state u with 500 majors and 21 faculty and I make nowhere near 135K. Baby profs make mid-40s. 135K is dean territority where I live. Lucky people at Takapa's institution!
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2008, 08:59:53 PM » |
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I chaired a multidisciplinary department (primarily English) at a smallish (5,500-student) public university in the Deep South with substantially more than 400 undergrad majors , 31 full-time faculty, and two master's programs, and made a bit under $90,000 a few years ago--had I stayed, I'd probably be making just around $100k now. My current salary as dean of a school of about 70 faculty and 900+ majors is in the range you're talking about.
A lot depends on the kind of school and its location, but I'd venture that the salary you're talking about is highly competitive. I'd see what senior full professors are making--if the salary's in the range of 150% of that (maybe a little less, like 140%), the projected salary is probably about right.
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takapa
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 09:16:27 AM » |
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Thanks all. Very helpful advice. Last night I chatted with the SCC and just had to ask. She was taken aback by my questioning, but said the salary was right on. Then she asked me about our salaries and the ranges of the chairs in our school and was peeved (rightfully so) about the distinct differences. Personally, I don't get it. The chair they are seeking will be much busier than mine, have less time for teaching and research and will not get paid as much. That just stinks!
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