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take_heart
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« on: January 31, 2008, 10:06:44 PM »

So I know grad students aren't supposed to sleep....or something....

Anyway, in November I finished Major Project that I had been working on for 8 months.  Now I am working on related, yet somewhat insignificant much smaller projects.  My time scheduled to work on this project is in the morning (like 7-8:30), then go to classes, teach, etc. and work again for another hour and a half or so in the evenings (with no hard deadlines).  I require a good night's sleep just to function.  So I try to go bed around 10:15 and then get up at 6:15.  Trouble is, I keep resetting my alarm after it goes off and then I don't get up until 7:15. 

So I'm not sure if the problem is simply that my body is requiring more sleep right now (yes, there are some health issues which affect the need for sleep), or if I'm simply unmotivated since completing Major Project in November and I really don't care about smaller project, or if I'm just being lazy and undisciplined.  My major prof thinks I'm depressed, and while I do occasionally struggle with it, I don't really feel like I am right now.

Does anyone else deal with this?
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 10:08:30 PM »

Two suggestions:

1) go to sleep a bit earlier (an hour if possible but whatever works) and do it consistently.

2) move your alarm clock across the room
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 10:10:33 PM »

Good lord, yes.  Part of my problem is that I really enjoy sleep--especially the early-morning wake-up-stretch-roll over and go back to sleep bit.  Despite my best intentions, I've not been able to get myself out of bed when I probably should unless I really, really have to.

Unfortunately, I have no advice to offer, only commiseration.
So I know grad students aren't supposed to sleep....or something....

Anyway, in November I finished Major Project that I had been working on for 8 months.  Now I am working on related, yet somewhat insignificant much smaller projects.  My time scheduled to work on this project is in the morning (like 7-8:30), then go to classes, teach, etc. and work again for another hour and a half or so in the evenings (with no hard deadlines).  I require a good night's sleep just to function.  So I try to go bed around 10:15 and then get up at 6:15.  Trouble is, I keep resetting my alarm after it goes off and then I don't get up until 7:15. 

So I'm not sure if the problem is simply that my body is requiring more sleep right now (yes, there are some health issues which affect the need for sleep), or if I'm simply unmotivated since completing Major Project in November and I really don't care about smaller project, or if I'm just being lazy and undisciplined.  My major prof thinks I'm depressed, and while I do occasionally struggle with it, I don't really feel like I am right now.

Does anyone else deal with this?
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 11:23:27 PM »

Nothing really productive, just more commiseration here.  I seem to require 9 hours of sleep now to feel well-rested.  I probably need to force myself to go to bed earlier so I can actually get that much sleep, but I always feel like I have too much to do (even though I'm obviously not terribly productive come 10:30).  I can't help but wonder if I forced myself to go to sleep earlier so I could actually get close to 9 hours a night, if I'd be more productive the hours I am awake. 

It's tough though, since my spouse functions well with less than 6-7 hours of sleep, and evenings are about the only time we have to be together. 

(Not depressed, just very busy, working full-time and doing school full-time.  If I'm not physically exhausted by the end of the day, I am mentally exhausted.  Sleep definitely helps recharge my brain.)
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 11:26:01 PM »

You can tell from my handle that I'm very sympathetic to sleep issues.

My problem is that I'm best for teaching and service work in the a.m. and I do my best research and writing at night.  If it were up to me, I'd be sleeping from noon to 8 p.m. but the rest of the world doesn't really cater to that.

So what I end up doing is sleeping from 2 or 3 to 7 or 8. 

Physically, I'm a wreck.  I hope to get some advice here too.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2008, 01:12:43 AM »

Good god, academics. Waking up at 730 after you punch your alarm out is not a sign of depression.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2008, 08:53:07 AM »

What's your weekend sleep schedule like?  Oftentimes I don't get my requisite eight hours of sleep on weeknights -- especially this semester with 8:00 am classes following evenings when I'm obliged to be out and about -- but I find that getting an extra hour or two on weekends catches me up on the sleep deficit.  I also get a lot of work accomplished on the weekends (once awake!).
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2008, 08:57:20 AM »

My weekends are pretty much the same, with maybe a little alteration (like 11-7 instead of 10-6).  During Christmas break, I was sleeping 9 hours a night and felt great (for me at least).  I don't know if that "catch-up" sleep from the wear-down of the end of the semester, or if maybe my body just works best on 9 hours of sleep. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2008, 09:00:58 AM »

Personally, I think that unless you're running up against hard deadlines (you must be at a specific place at 7:30), I would just get the extra sleep (and set the clocks accordingly).  I always find that my productivity improves so much when I'm well rested that I get more done in less time; trying to stretch your work into your sleep time usually backfires.
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2008, 01:37:57 PM »

Get the sleep. Lots of changes in life can mean you require more sleep for a little while. Stress, for instance is a big one.

One great aspect of doing what we do is that you can fit your productivity to your sleep schedule. Get where you need to be when you need to be there, but otherwise, do whatever makes you more productive.
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2008, 11:12:00 PM »

Sleep when you want and work when you work best. No reason to get up at 6 unless you have some obligation you need to meet at a certain hour.

My natural circadian rhythm is something like:

Stay up until 11:30 or 12. Sleep until 8 or 8:30. Get up, read paper, drink coffee, check e-mail. Shower, dress, walk dog. Do work. Have a beer. Make dinner. Work some more. Watch mindless TV or goof off on internet. Sleep. Repeat.

Too bad it's more like stay up until 10 or 11. Wake up between 4 and 5. Commute. Work. School. Workschool. Commute. Arrive home between 6:30 p.m. (on a really good day) and 11 p.m. (about once a week). Usually it's around 7:30 or 8. Check e-mail, wolf down dinner (thanks hubby!), guzzle a beer and watch some HGTV. Sleep. Repeat.

About five days a month, I can follow my own circadian rhythm. Those days are glorious, and too few. My goal in life is to get more of them.
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