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[sciencephd]

Cranefly, I find your comments really offensive. Have you published with them? How do you know there is no peer-review process then? You should show proof of what you are saying. You are misleading people.

Why would you find these comments offensive ?  Unless, of course, you work for VDM.

[infopri]

verdell = cranefly

you guys are really misleading people here

Well, then, so are a whole lot of other people who have had their work published by VDM.  They all say the same thing.

[cranefly]

verdell = cranefly

you guys are really misleading people here

I can assure you I am not verdell, nor do I know who she/he is. I also can't understand what you find offensive about my comments. I believe you are "shooting the messenger" so to speak. I have not published with VDM. I published my books with reputable university presses. If VDM has a peer review process, please, enlighten us all and provide us with evidence of that process.

And don't take my comments personally. I merely point out fact. If you're disappointed that you published with what you now realize is hardly a step up from a vanity press, then that's your disappointment with yourself, not with me.

[verdell]

I am also not cranefly, but I published with VDM and what are the odds that they would ask for NO changes to a 180 page manuscript and accept my work in under 48 hours???? The peer review process for a 30 page paper is usually 3 months...if you are lucky.  I'm drawing the logical conclusion.

I did publish with VDM and many people in my social science field said do it to have a book, but don't do it if you are very concerned with the publisher. 

But science3, it's a personal call.  If you want to put it on your CV, then great! Do it! Just make sure you give it a different title than your dissertation.  Also, people will ask you about the publisher.  Who are they? Why haven't they heard of them? Those are questions I got and I wasn't trying to sell it as a peer-reviewed book!

I'm not sure how I can mislead someone about something I have already done.  That was my experience. 

If you really want a book to put on your CV, then try for a more reputable publisher. 

[science3]

With reputable university presses such as? People are posting here to get some information; not to have to read your arrogant comments. If you have fun putting people's work down, then be it.

verdell = cranefly

you guys are really misleading people here

I can assure you I am not verdell, nor do I know who she/he is. I also can't understand what you find offensive about my comments. I believe you are "shooting the messenger" so to speak. I have not published with VDM. I published my books with reputable university presses. If VDM has a peer review process, please, enlighten us all and provide us with evidence of that process.

And don't take my comments personally. I merely point out fact. If you're disappointed that you published with what you now realize is hardly a step up from a vanity press, then that's your disappointment with yourself, not with me.

[infopri]

With reputable university presses such as? People are posting here to get some information; not to have to read your arrogant comments. If you have fun putting people's work down, then be it.

verdell = cranefly

you guys are really misleading people here

I can assure you I am not verdell, nor do I know who she/he is. I also can't understand what you find offensive about my comments. I believe you are "shooting the messenger" so to speak. I have not published with VDM. I published my books with reputable university presses. If VDM has a peer review process, please, enlighten us all and provide us with evidence of that process.

And don't take my comments personally. I merely point out fact. If you're disappointed that you published with what you now realize is hardly a step up from a vanity press, then that's your disappointment with yourself, not with me.

Science3, no one is putting your work down, nor even VDM's.  Folks are simply describing what VDM does, which apparently is to take a person's dissertation or thesis, put a cover on it, and sell it.  There's nothing wrong with that, and some people value this service--but it is not the same as peer review.  Putting this kind of "book" on a CV is misleading to SCs who expect that a "book" has gone through peer review or at least an editorial process, as is the case with American university presses.  (I'm wondering whether maybe you're outside the U.S., which might explain some of the misunderstanding here.) 

Many (most?) American universities have a "university press," which publishes scholarly material.  The books go through an editorial process (and usually some sort of peer review), which often requires the author to make both editorial and substantive changes to strengthen the manuscript.  It is this process with which VDM is being contrasted.

[sciencephd]

science3, repeatedly stating that posters are misleading, insulting, etc., without providing any other information or rebuttal in your post, will not convince anyone.

There needs to be both editing and peer review in an academic press.  VDM has neither of these qualities.

In an academic setting, which is the standard measure here, as this is an academic forum, the value of having VDM as a publisher can be judged simply by scanning faculty publications in your field, and determining how many of them have used VDM as a publisher.

[science3]

Exactly. What is misleading is, for example, suggesting that I work for VDM Verlag, or that I'm finding out about the quality of it through this forum.

I posted to share my experience, which may be helpful for those that were asking about the publisher.

I am not concerned about the value of a publication with VDM Verlag. I am a tenured professor in the US, if that may clarify something.

science3, repeatedly stating that posters are misleading, insulting, etc., without providing any other information or rebuttal in your post, will not convince anyone.

There needs to be both editing and peer review in an academic press.  VDM has neither of these qualities.

In an academic setting, which is the standard measure here, as this is an academic forum, the value of having VDM as a publisher can be judged simply by scanning faculty publications in your field, and determining how many of them have used VDM as a publisher.

[professor_pat]

I published a monograph with VDM Verlag. My PhD advisor recommended doing so. I work in the social sciences, and many of my peers recommended accepting teh invitation to publish with them. I am very satisfied with the quality of the publication and their peer review process.

So, tell us about this peer-review process.

[science3]

As you are saying... some sort of peer-review process... I'm not sure all university presses in the US do that... for what I've seen and experienced, some even ask you for money...

With reputable university presses such as? People are posting here to get some information; not to have to read your arrogant comments. If you have fun putting people's work down, then be it.

verdell = cranefly

you guys are really misleading people here

I can assure you I am not verdell, nor do I know who she/he is. I also can't understand what you find offensive about my comments. I believe you are "shooting the messenger" so to speak. I have not published with VDM. I published my books with reputable university presses. If VDM has a peer review process, please, enlighten us all and provide us with evidence of that process.

And don't take my comments personally. I merely point out fact. If you're disappointed that you published with what you now realize is hardly a step up from a vanity press, then that's your disappointment with yourself, not with me.

Science3, no one is putting your work down, nor even VDM's.  Folks are simply describing what VDM does, which apparently is to take a person's dissertation or thesis, put a cover on it, and sell it.  There's nothing wrong with that, and some people value this service--but it is not the same as peer review.  Putting this kind of "book" on a CV is misleading to SCs who expect that a "book" has gone through peer review or at least an editorial process, as is the case with American university presses.  (I'm wondering whether maybe you're outside the U.S., which might explain some of the misunderstanding here.) 

Many (most?) American universities have a "university press," which publishes scholarly material.  The books go through an editorial process (and usually some sort of peer review), which often requires the author to make both editorial and substantive changes to strengthen the manuscript.  It is this process with which VDM is being contrasted.

[science3]

And suggesting I'm not in the US shows your condescending attitude, and your US-centered view of the academic world; in the same way someone was attacked here for not being an English native speaker.

On the other hand, SCs must be knowledgeable enough to differentiate valuable publications or not, either from vdm or university presses.

With reputable university presses such as? People are posting here to get some information; not to have to read your arrogant comments. If you have fun putting people's work down, then be it.

verdell = cranefly

you guys are really misleading people here

I can assure you I am not verdell, nor do I know who she/he is. I also can't understand what you find offensive about my comments. I believe you are "shooting the messenger" so to speak. I have not published with VDM. I published my books with reputable university presses. If VDM has a peer review process, please, enlighten us all and provide us with evidence of that process.

And don't take my comments personally. I merely point out fact. If you're disappointed that you published with what you now realize is hardly a step up from a vanity press, then that's your disappointment with yourself, not with me.

Science3, no one is putting your work down, nor even VDM's.  Folks are simply describing what VDM does, which apparently is to take a person's dissertation or thesis, put a cover on it, and sell it.  There's nothing wrong with that, and some people value this service--but it is not the same as peer review.  Putting this kind of "book" on a CV is misleading to SCs who expect that a "book" has gone through peer review or at least an editorial process, as is the case with American university presses.  (I'm wondering whether maybe you're outside the U.S., which might explain some of the misunderstanding here.) 

Many (most?) American universities have a "university press," which publishes scholarly material.  The books go through an editorial process (and usually some sort of peer review), which often requires the author to make both editorial and substantive changes to strengthen the manuscript.  It is this process with which VDM is being contrasted.

[sciencephd]

science3, did you publish your book with VDM when you received your PhD ?  Or was it later ?

[science3]

Much later. It was not my dissertation because in my field we do not publish dissertations.

science3, did you publish your book with VDM when you received your PhD ?  Or was it later ?

[sciencephd]

And your tenure decision was based primarily on this book ?

[science3]

Articles and the book.

You see? Are we scrutinizing here YOUR academic careers?

And your tenure decision was based primarily on this book ?