yossia
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« Reply #435 on: May 05, 2009, 05:03:56 AM » |
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So actually no one here can "show me the book"
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sciencephd
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« Reply #436 on: May 05, 2009, 07:17:33 AM » |
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So actually no one here can "show me the book"
The origin and extent of your confusion has now been clarified. |
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I just hate it that I constantly have to like everyone and everything. -- moonstone
O, what a hateful feminist concoction!
Jews, communists, "lesbians", feminists and marihuana addicts --Pyshnov
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karta
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« Reply #437 on: May 06, 2009, 08:04:03 AM » |
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But what's the scam here? How are they making money from "publishing" a million books that nobody will read?
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« Reply #438 on: May 06, 2009, 11:12:38 AM » |
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But what's the scam here? How are they making money from "publishing" a million books that nobody will read?
Nobody is calling it a scam. We're just saying it's not an academically credible publication. They make money because they print on demand. I accidentally bought one of their "books" from Amazon. It was full of spelling/grammatical errors, and the thing was a thin paperback (MAX 50 pages) and cost me $75. It probably cost them a $1 to print. That's how they make money. |
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Oh yeah--Professor Sparkle Pony. "Follow your dreams, young genius, and you will meet with success!" Students eat that up.
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« Reply #439 on: May 06, 2009, 11:15:46 AM » |
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But what's the scam here? How are they making money from "publishing" a million books that nobody will read?
Nobody is calling it a scam. We're just saying it's not an academically credible publication. They make money because they print on demand. I accidentally bought one of their "books" from Amazon. It was full of spelling/grammatical errors, and the thing was a thin paperback (MAX 50 pages) and cost me $75. It probably cost them a $1 to print. That's how they make money. Yes, precisely. It is not a scam, in the sense that VDM does indeed provide the services it advertises. But it is in effect a vanity publisher, and it is highly unlikely, in the USA at least, to enhance your academic reputation. |
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i think is good for every one only the think is that we will always scares about that. |
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gennimom
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« Reply #440 on: May 06, 2009, 03:29:00 PM » |
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Okay, so scratch that email out of my junk mail. Thought I should but I came here to double check!
Phew! Thank goodness for the fora!
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...only after reading gm's post, my new mantra is "always listen to gennimom".
Monday reeks! - Garfield The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a person (or something like that). |
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« Reply #441 on: May 07, 2009, 09:03:08 AM » |
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I carefully read through the comments and google out some facts. At least, someone (assistant professor in US, even more around the world) did post a VDM publication in a CV on line as http://www.cs.wayne.edu/~hzhang/CV.pdfThe final judgment to publish through VDM is up to your purpose, your filed and your institution. |
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sciencephd
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« Reply #442 on: May 07, 2009, 12:15:16 PM » |
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I carefully read through the comments and google out some facts. At least, someone (assistant professor in US, even more around the world) did post a VDM publication in a CV on line as http://www.cs.wayne.edu/~hzhang/CV.pdfThe final judgment to publish through VDM is up to your purpose, your filed and your institution. So many facts, it is almost overwhelming. |
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I just hate it that I constantly have to like everyone and everything. -- moonstone
O, what a hateful feminist concoction!
Jews, communists, "lesbians", feminists and marihuana addicts --Pyshnov
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« Reply #443 on: May 07, 2009, 02:12:23 PM » |
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I carefully read through the comments and google out some facts. At least, someone (assistant professor in US, even more around the world) did post a VDM publication in a CV on line as http://www.cs.wayne.edu/~hzhang/CV.pdfSo he sent his "book" with the nice binding to his mother in China... How is this any proof that a VDM is of any scholarly value? The final judgment to publish through VDM is up to your purpose, your filed and your institution.
NO. This is exactly the issue that has been raised here. There has been no evidence or argument that for any purpose (scholarly, academic, or professional advancement) or, for any field or area from any self-respecting institution (on-line and diploma mills excluded) a publication with VDM has any value. You may not realize it but the responses posted by VDM staff on this forum have resulted in an even worse image for VDM than what was originally perceived. Really, this is the time to stop feeding this fire, it is burning your butt. John |
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nk123
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« Reply #444 on: May 14, 2009, 12:28:15 PM » |
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I would like to thank the people on this thread for sharing their experiences. Having read through the whole thing I feel I've been able to get a good idea of VDM and what it means to publish with them. Thanks again!
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stjohnt
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« Reply #445 on: May 18, 2009, 01:32:42 PM » |
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I got one of these invitations this morning, and have been sleuthing about it for about an hour. Apparently VDM has 1,321 offerings on Amazon. I am tempted to check it out, and can still submit journal articles. The company looks legit, if not first class...but a lot of companies start out that way and make themselves into something...I want to watch and see. Please keep sending information.
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« Reply #446 on: May 18, 2009, 02:51:30 PM » |
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Please keep sending information.
Roger ! I'm transmitting on channel 69. Over and out. |
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I just hate it that I constantly have to like everyone and everything. -- moonstone
O, what a hateful feminist concoction!
Jews, communists, "lesbians", feminists and marihuana addicts --Pyshnov
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maikel
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« Reply #447 on: May 22, 2009, 05:34:06 AM » |
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Hi All
Needless to say, I am joining in because I also got the invitation from VDM. I do agree that it will not add that many academic credentials to your CV. But here is the deal: I have extracted all the possible publications from my PhD thesis (I defended 5 years ago) and currently, so I joke to the PhD students in my laboratory, my thesis mostly functions as an excellent dustcollector. This is why I feel like I have really not that much to lose with the VDM endeavour. I do understand the scepticism boosted in this forum but at the same time it could mean somewhat of a second life for my thesis.
To be continued....
Maikel
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bacardiandlime
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« Reply #448 on: May 22, 2009, 05:36:29 AM » |
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Or you could just go to Kinko's and get them to print out a copy and put a nice cover on it.
But of course, you wouldn't advise that, since you're a shill for VDM.
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YOU ARE NASTY
Go jump in lake!
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maikel
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« Reply #449 on: May 22, 2009, 05:44:52 AM » |
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bacardiandlime, good and understandable guess but you're wrong.
Cheers
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